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I'm parked at Barnes Muni (BAF) and I want to be home in ROC. But there
is a AIRMET ZULU for ice in the clouds and precipitation above the freezing level, and there are low clouds layered up to the flight levels, and the MEA is above the freezing level. So it looks like we're going to be driving the rental car home, and I'll come back to get the plane in a couple of days when the weather is clear. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Think?" I asked. "I don't think. I'm a witness. Someone asks me a question, and I answer it as honestly as I can. How could I be on anyone's *side*?" -- David P. Murphy, on his participation in a lawsuit |
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no way to head south ? it's looking a bit clearer down on the CT
coastline, perhaps you can make a great circle out of it and wind up sneaking back into Rochester from somewhere else. Sucks to have to drive, but better to be on the ground wishing you were up there than vice versa. good luck Robert Paul Tomblin wrote: I'm parked at Barnes Muni (BAF) and I want to be home in ROC. But there is a AIRMET ZULU for ice in the clouds and precipitation above the freezing level, and there are low clouds layered up to the flight levels, and the MEA is above the freezing level. So it looks like we're going to be driving the rental car home, and I'll come back to get the plane in a couple of days when the weather is clear. |
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In a previous article, Robert Chambers said:
no way to head south ? it's looking a bit clearer down on the CT coastline, perhaps you can make a great circle out of it and wind up sneaking back into Rochester from somewhere else. The CIP icing models show some high probability over Rochester itself. Being downwind of the lake is nothing but heartache in the cold weather. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. |
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Yeah I was thinking if you could get to Utica or somewhere a bit closer
than BAF. The drive would be shorter if you have to leave the plane there and the drive back to retrieve the bird would be shorter as well. I've been in icing myself exactly twice and that was 2 times more than I needed. Each time it happened we got lower altitude and either a 180 out of it or vectors to an airport. Taking the safest course of action is never a dumb move. Robert Paul Tomblin wrote: In a previous article, Robert Chambers said: no way to head south ? it's looking a bit clearer down on the CT coastline, perhaps you can make a great circle out of it and wind up sneaking back into Rochester from somewhere else. The CIP icing models show some high probability over Rochester itself. Being downwind of the lake is nothing but heartache in the cold weather. |
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In a previous article, Robert Chambers said:
Yeah I was thinking if you could get to Utica or somewhere a bit closer than BAF. The drive would be shorter if you have to leave the plane there and the drive back to retrieve the bird would be shorter as well. As I was driving out of the parking lot at Barnes, there was a fair chunk of blue sky to the west. I was really tempted to fly west and see how far I could get VFR with maybe a popup IFR clearance for an approach somewhere and rent a car there, and that's what I would have done if I were alone. But my wife doesn't like the uncertainty of not knowing whether we're going to find a rental car or a motel room. On the drive home, we drove through some high hills with low clouds down below the peaks and cold rain, and figured that being in the car was probably the best decision. I'm just not sure when the conditions are going to be conducive to bringing the plane home, and the club is NOT going to be happy about that. I might go down on Wednesday and give it a try to see how far I get. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Legacy (adj): an uncomplimentary computer-industry epithet that means 'it works'." -- Anthony DeBoer |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:37:41 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote: I'm just not sure when the conditions are going to be conducive to bringing the plane home, and the club is NOT going to be happy about that. Yes, they would have been much happier had you become an icing accident. Seriously, if the club is second guessing your decision, there's something very wrong with the safety culture there. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, Robert Chambers said: Yeah I was thinking if you could get to Utica or somewhere a bit closer than BAF. The drive would be shorter if you have to leave the plane there and the drive back to retrieve the bird would be shorter as well. As I was driving out of the parking lot at Barnes, there was a fair chunk of blue sky to the west. I was really tempted to fly west and see how far I could get VFR with maybe a popup IFR clearance for an approach somewhere and rent a car there, and that's what I would have done if I were alone. But my wife doesn't like the uncertainty of not knowing whether we're going to find a rental car or a motel room. On the drive home, we drove through some high hills with low clouds down below the peaks and cold rain, and figured that being in the car was probably the best decision. I'm just not sure when the conditions are going to be conducive to bringing the plane home, and the club is NOT going to be happy about that. I might go down on Wednesday and give it a try to see how far I get. I flew from ELM to LEB on Friday for the weekend. Woke up at the hotel in Montpelier, VT Sunday morning to 3" of snow! Luckily, as we drove back south to the airport we ran out of snow and into light mist. I was iffy on attempting the flight home given the low clouds and freezing level, but a twin had departed shortly ahead of me for PA and reported on top at 10,000 with no icing problems. So, I decided to take a look and see how far I could get. Got a little rime at 6,000, but was soon between layers and had a pretty uneventful fight home. I did have to climb to 8,000 to stay between layers near Albany and eventually up to 10,000 to get on top prior to Binghamton, but the descent into ELM was through a thin layer with no problems. One just never knows in this part of the country this time of the year. You certainly can't fault any decision to cancel a flight this time of year in such conditions. I've flown a fair bit in this area and decided the risk was acceptable, but I did have the ILS 18 back into Lebanon on my approach clip as I was climbing out. :-) Matt |
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