AnywhereWX???

After considerable research, I have pretty much written off adding weather
to my Garmin 530 right now. It looks like the GDL-49 just doesn't do what I
want, and is too susceptable to interference for efficient delivery of
detailed weather, and you have to add another damned VHF antenna (which
would be very expensive, since I would have to relocate my other topside VHF
antenna to obtain the requisite 3' separation without guarantee it still
won't cause problems and have a nice flush patch added to yet another hole
in my freshly painted empennage...) Garmin also stated unequivically the
WxWorks system they will support in the G1000 WON'T be supported in the 530.
Us suckers with the 430/530 get the GDL-49 or nuthin'.

Sooo, while at OSH, I checked out the various "portable" systems. From my
research, it LOOKS like AnywhereWX is the system to beat. The data age
appears the best of all the systems, and the lowest initial and recurring
cost solution. They even announced they will be providing IR cloud top data.
The WxWorks XM system looks like it will require more hardware, and not have
the same capabilities with higher recurring (subscription) costs.

BUT, I haven't actually heard from anyone that uses it on a routine basis.
What is the good, the bad, and the ugly? Anyone who has used it or owns it
have opinions? How reliable is the Globalstar Sat Phone for data? 9600 on
the Globalstar is WAY better than the damned 2800 on the EchoFlight system,
but does it suffer from the same problems initiating the data request?

I was also fascinated with their approach plate overlays. Anyone try that
yet?

After dodging T-storms on the way back from OSH, I am really anxious to get
a reliable, high-res weather solution in the cockpit. I don't really need
the nav capability, since I already have an IFR Approach Cert GPS in the
panel. I tried CBAV, but it just doesn't work over all the altitudes and
regions I fly.

Thanks for the info...

Mark
Tiger N1533R




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"mtmueller" wrote in message ...
After considerable research, I have pretty much written off adding weather
to my Garmin 530 right now.

Mark, here is what I said in another thread about "my answer" to
control vision and anywherewx...the only thing I dont have is a nexrad
picture superimposed on my posiiton, because I don't have the
anywhere software, and I dont connect a gps to my pda, specifically to
eliminate all the wires. Simplu put, I have the Sat phone, a two foot
cable, and the PDA...works great. BTW, I have a GNS 530 in my mooney,
and Im waiting for the fast, elegant and inexpensive solution, but in
the mean time,
Jeff Doran, quoted from another thread said:
Richard, thank you for posting the info on the xmradio weatherworx. I,
like many, have been searching for reliable in-cockpit weather
solutions. The closest thing to affordibility so far has been anywhere
wx from control vision, but even that is a bit pricey, and a rats nest
of wires. I have used the Palm i705, and you just can't beat it for
portability and cost. However, as reliable as it is, even in flight,
there are too many times, when I just didnt get a signal or reply when
making an inflight weather request from CBAV or TurboWX.
For that past month, I have been using a poormans version of the
control vision solution...
Globalstar SAT phone, $595 list/$495 with rebate/$395 reconditioned
Ipaq H3635 pocket pc, on ebay for $100 (or any pocket pc), you can
even hook to your i705 and switch back and forth between the wireless
palm network and the SAT connection. I prefer the higher resolution
and color on the Ipaq for maps.
Globalstar data cable, $69;
IPAQ Serial Cable (not a hotsync cable, they are not the same) $20;
SAT phone is $35/month and .99/minute with 30 included min/month, or
$50/month with 120 minutes/month, .75/minute after that.
Control Visions deal is $25/month, first 100 mins free, then .99/min
after that.
A wide range of service plans to fit both budget and use.

(I do not work for any SAT phone company or aviation product company)

Data comes down at 9.6Kbps,plus I can make reliable, consistant voice
calls in flight.
I have not had any problem aquiring and holding a SAT signal in
flight, as long as the antenna is held reasonbly close to a window.
The glare shield is fine.
Admittedly, this is a request/reply setup, and I typically use
weathertap.com and flighbrief.com for inflight weather. Not that it is
very useful or fast, I can browse the web in flight, including pop3
email, etc etc...

The result is, I am juggling only a PDA, a short cable, and the sat
phone. Not Bad.

Did you ever notice how big and cumbersome even the smallest laptops
are when in the cockpit? Screen visibility in sunlight is another
concern.

About the only thing I see that XMradio has to offer is its
"broadcast" technology, and (I assume) greater bandwidth...not that
these are bad things.

BTW, I have a Delphi Xmradio mounted on the pedestal of my mooney,
with
the low profile antenna hiding on the glare shield...works great...but
I can't listen to Limbaugh.

Jeff Doran
Mooney N1159P ACY

Thanks for your very detailed response. I will have to look into your "poor
man's" idea. I like it!

BTW, I use the Sirius portable radio in my Tiger. Gotta love it. I can't
imagine long x-countries without it...

Mark
Tiger N1533R


"Jeff Doran" wrote in message
om...
"mtmueller" wrote in message
...
After considerable research, I have pretty much written off adding
weather
to my Garmin 530 right now.

Mark, here is what I said in another thread about "my answer" to
control vision and anywherewx...the only thing I dont have is a nexrad
picture superimposed on my posiiton, because I don't have the
anywhere software, and I dont connect a gps to my pda, specifically to
eliminate all the wires. Simplu put, I have the Sat phone, a two foot
cable, and the PDA...works great. BTW, I have a GNS 530 in my mooney,
and Im waiting for the fast, elegant and inexpensive solution, but in
the mean time,
Jeff Doran, quoted from another thread said:
Richard, thank you for posting the info on the xmradio weatherworx. I,
like many, have been searching for reliable in-cockpit weather
solutions. The closest thing to affordibility so far has been anywhere
wx from control vision, but even that is a bit pricey, and a rats nest
of wires. I have used the Palm i705, and you just can't beat it for
portability and cost. However, as reliable as it is, even in flight,
there are too many times, when I just didnt get a signal or reply when
making an inflight weather request from CBAV or TurboWX.
For that past month, I have been using a poormans version of the
control vision solution...
Globalstar SAT phone, $595 list/$495 with rebate/$395 reconditioned
Ipaq H3635 pocket pc, on ebay for $100 (or any pocket pc), you can
even hook to your i705 and switch back and forth between the wireless
palm network and the SAT connection. I prefer the higher resolution
and color on the Ipaq for maps.
Globalstar data cable, $69;
IPAQ Serial Cable (not a hotsync cable, they are not the same) $20;
SAT phone is $35/month and .99/minute with 30 included min/month, or
$50/month with 120 minutes/month, .75/minute after that.
Control Visions deal is $25/month, first 100 mins free, then .99/min
after that.
A wide range of service plans to fit both budget and use.

(I do not work for any SAT phone company or aviation product company)

Data comes down at 9.6Kbps,plus I can make reliable, consistant voice
calls in flight.
I have not had any problem aquiring and holding a SAT signal in
flight, as long as the antenna is held reasonbly close to a window.
The glare shield is fine.
Admittedly, this is a request/reply setup, and I typically use
weathertap.com and flighbrief.com for inflight weather. Not that it is
very useful or fast, I can browse the web in flight, including pop3
email, etc etc...

The result is, I am juggling only a PDA, a short cable, and the sat
phone. Not Bad.

Did you ever notice how big and cumbersome even the smallest laptops
are when in the cockpit? Screen visibility in sunlight is another
concern.

About the only thing I see that XMradio has to offer is its
"broadcast" technology, and (I assume) greater bandwidth...not that
these are bad things.

BTW, I have a Delphi Xmradio mounted on the pedestal of my mooney,
with
the low profile antenna hiding on the glare shield...works great...but
I can't listen to Limbaugh.

Jeff Doran
Mooney N1159P ACY




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