Lowrance GPS

Hello all,

I put away a few pennies here and there and now its time to invest in a
good GPS receiver. I've decided that the Lowrance will give me all I need.
And maybe more since I won't be doing any IFR. (Yes, I know it isn't IFR
rated anyway. The point is I won't need it for IFR backup, etc..)

Q1 -- Why should I buy the color system over the B&W?

Q2 -- Can either the 1000 or 2000c be loaded with the land database and used
to navigate on the ground?

Q3 -- Anybody ever time out a set of fresh alkaline batteries?
How long did they last?
Same question(s) for NiMH, please

Q4 -- Any druthers on a different brand?

Go Fly!

Casey

A1 -- I bought the B&W because I was able to get the brand new one for
$399. Don't have much use for the color really. The only positive
that I can think of is that I hear rumors that the 2000C will be able
to get the realtime weather upgrade in the future and the 1000 will
not.

A2-- Both can. It comes with a program called Map Create. You just
compile the map and put it on the SD Card in the unit. You will need
a MUCH bigger chip than the dinky one that come with the unit. I got
a 1G SD chip and it holds what I need.

A3-- Have not timed it out, but I know that I put a set of Alkaline
batteries in my unit and used them for about 2 hours and the unit
indicated under 1/2 power left. HAve not used NiCAD in the unit.

A4 -- I Can not answer this one.

Q1 -- Why should I buy the color system over the B&W?

Q2 -- Can either the 1000 or 2000c be loaded with the land database and used
to navigate on the ground?

Q3 -- Anybody ever time out a set of fresh alkaline batteries?
How long did they last?
Same question(s) for NiMH, please

Q4 -- Any druthers on a different brand?

Go Fly!

Casey



Mike Alexander
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
See my online aerial photo album at
http://flying.4alexanders.com

Interspersed comments below.....

Q1 -- Why should I buy the color system over the B&W?
Brighter, easier to read screen, in all light conditions, with a
wider angle of viewing...pilot can read it on co-pilots yoke..

Q2 -- Can either the 1000 or 2000c be loaded with the land database and used
to navigate on the ground?

Yes, it is included, unless you want the Canadian data, it's extra..


Q3 -- Anybody ever time out a set of fresh alkaline batteries?

Yup!
How long did they last?

3 hrs for colour, 4 hrs B&W

Same question(s) for NiMH, please

dono, never used them


Q4 -- Any druthers on a different brand?

Once you get out of the "Garmin, Garmin, Garmin' mind set, the 2000
wins hands down, IMHO

We had the B&W for a year, got the colour 5 mos ago.

On a Warrior's yoke, we have yet to plug in the remote antenna.
Waiting for the terrain 1GB card, (end of Jan), and will be loading
the Canadian database then as well. Lowrance support in Canada has
been the very best.. Unit is easy to learn and use.

We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??

Glad we made the choice we did..

YMMV

Cheers!

Dave


Go Fly!

Casey

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG

Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.

Yet.

Rumor mill says: Lowrance is going to roll out XM weather for the 2000c at
Sun N Fun...

Lowrance is not known for meeting deadlines.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ummm.. but when you want to use the XM Rx, they DO have magnets, and
they want to install them in a light aircraft, and they affect the
compass, and , and, and, .....

On some other pilots groups, there is much discussion and disgust...

It's a hot topic, and costing Garmin reputation..

The magnets are very difficult to remove, and removal (they have made
it very clear) will void the warranty, do not admit it is a problem or
concern, and (apparently so far) have no intention of correcting it..

(according to Garmin replies pasted in the NG's)

And the XM is expected soon for the Lowrance...

I do not own anAviation Garmin, what I relate here is from others who
do, and thet appear quite dissappointed..

Dave


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:34 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG

In what group is this conversation going on?


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Ummm.. but when you want to use the XM Rx, they DO have magnets, and
they want to install them in a light aircraft, and they affect the
compass, and , and, and, .....

On some other pilots groups, there is much discussion and disgust...

It's a hot topic, and costing Garmin reputation..

The magnets are very difficult to remove, and removal (they have made
it very clear) will void the warranty, do not admit it is a problem or
concern, and (apparently so far) have no intention of correcting it..

(according to Garmin replies pasted in the NG's)

And the XM is expected soon for the Lowrance...

I do not own anAviation Garmin, what I relate here is from others who
do, and thet appear quite dissappointed..

Dave


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:34 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG

CPA.. Cherokee Pilots Association.. prolly in the archives now...

And one I heard of in one of the Cessna groups/chats, and two
threads here and in Rec.aviation.owning. (I think)

Been a while...

Dave


On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:54:43 GMT, "Lakeview Bill"
wrote:

In what group is this conversation going on?


"Dave" wrote in message
.. .
Ummm.. but when you want to use the XM Rx, they DO have magnets, and
they want to install them in a light aircraft, and they affect the
compass, and , and, and, .....

On some other pilots groups, there is much discussion and disgust...

It's a hot topic, and costing Garmin reputation..

The magnets are very difficult to remove, and removal (they have made
it very clear) will void the warranty, do not admit it is a problem or
concern, and (apparently so far) have no intention of correcting it..

(according to Garmin replies pasted in the NG's)

And the XM is expected soon for the Lowrance...

I do not own anAviation Garmin, what I relate here is from others who
do, and thet appear quite dissappointed..

Dave


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:34 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG

The magnets aren't a big deal--really. Garmin provides a total of 11
feet of cable to run the XM receiver well away from the compass if the
magnets bother you. The folks who find the magnets absolutely
unacceptable appear to be a very small minority of consumers.

My point, though, was that Garmin does NOT use magnets in their GPS
antennas, and Lowrance does NOT have XM capability. Personally, I'm
willing to live with the magnets (though I agree their presence is
puzzling) to get a capability that Lowrance cannot deliver. Who's to
say that Lowrance won't have magnets in their XM unit, if they ever
bring one to market?



JKG


In article ,
Dave wrote:
Ummm.. but when you want to use the XM Rx, they DO have magnets, and
they want to install them in a light aircraft, and they affect the
compass, and , and, and, .....

On some other pilots groups, there is much discussion and disgust...

It's a hot topic, and costing Garmin reputation..

The magnets are very difficult to remove, and removal (they have made
it very clear) will void the warranty, do not admit it is a problem or
concern, and (apparently so far) have no intention of correcting it..

(according to Garmin replies pasted in the NG's)

And the XM is expected soon for the Lowrance...

I do not own anAviation Garmin, what I relate here is from others who
do, and thet appear quite dissappointed..

Dave


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:34 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG

Yes..all good points...

But certianly a flub on their part, and the 11 ft of cable is not
necessarily convenient.



On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:30 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

The magnets aren't a big deal--really. Garmin provides a total of 11
feet of cable to run the XM receiver well away from the compass if the
magnets bother you.

The cowl just seems to be the fav place for most ofus, remember many
users of the portable units are renters, and do not have the luxury of
"installing 11 ft of cable" to get around this issue.

The folks who find the magnets absolutely
unacceptable appear to be a very small minority of consumers.

Possibly, but seems to be a significant %age of the few who use the XM
option.. but I have no data on this, or ever will have..

My point, though, was that Garmin does NOT use magnets in their GPS
antennas,

Correct

and Lowrance does NOT have XM capability.

Yet,...... lately, the DO have a habit of delivering on what they say
they will...

Personally, I'm
willing to live with the magnets (though I agree their presence is
puzzling) to get a capability that Lowrance cannot deliver.

Who's to
say that Lowrance won't have magnets in their XM unit, if they ever
bring one to market?

I hope they are wise enough to at least learn from Garmin's mistake..

Being "second" in introducing a new feature is not always a bad
thing..

We will see...

Cheers!

Dave



JKG


In article ,
Dave wrote:
Ummm.. but when you want to use the XM Rx, they DO have magnets, and
they want to install them in a light aircraft, and they affect the
compass, and , and, and, .....

On some other pilots groups, there is much discussion and disgust...

It's a hot topic, and costing Garmin reputation..

The magnets are very difficult to remove, and removal (they have made
it very clear) will void the warranty, do not admit it is a problem or
concern, and (apparently so far) have no intention of correcting it..

(according to Garmin replies pasted in the NG's)

And the XM is expected soon for the Lowrance...

I do not own anAviation Garmin, what I relate here is from others who
do, and thet appear quite dissappointed..

Dave


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:34 -0500, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:
We like it very much, has exceeded our expectations....

And NO FREAKING MAGNETS in the antenna with instructions to mount it
on the cowl!! (beside the compass) !!

WHAT was Garmin thinking??


Garmin's antennas do not contain magnets. The issue with magnets and
the Garmin 396 has to do with the XM receiver. As far as I know,
Lowrance doesn't have XM capability.



JKG