Does an IPC count as a BFR?

Okay, I've read the regulations and still can't figure out the answer to
this question: If I received an IPC from a CFII one year after my last BFR,
do I need to get another BFR in 12 months or 24 months from now??

Thanks in advance,

Larry

An IPC in itself does not. Unless the instructor endorsed your logbook as
having given a flight review at the same time as your IPC, no it does not
count. Not all CFII's can give BFR's.


"Larry Jenkins" wrote in message
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Okay, I've read the regulations and still can't figure out the answer to
this question: If I received an IPC from a CFII one year after my last
BFR,
do I need to get another BFR in 12 months or 24 months from now??

Thanks in advance,

Larry

Thanks for clarifying, Brad.

Larry
"Brad Z" wrote in message
news:wgb4c.9456$bP2.70125@attbi_s53...
An IPC in itself does not. Unless the instructor endorsed your logbook as
having given a flight review at the same time as your IPC, no it does not
count. Not all CFII's can give BFR's.


"Larry Jenkins" wrote in message
...
Okay, I've read the regulations and still can't figure out the answer to
this question: If I received an IPC from a CFII one year after my last
BFR,
do I need to get another BFR in 12 months or 24 months from now??

Thanks in advance,

Larry

I generally just combine the two and request that the BFR be inclusive of an
IPC. That's where I always seem to need the work.


"Brad Z" wrote in message
news:wgb4c.9456$bP2.70125@attbi_s53...
An IPC in itself does not. Unless the instructor endorsed your logbook as
having given a flight review at the same time as your IPC, no it does not
count. Not all CFII's can give BFR's.


"Larry Jenkins" wrote in message
...
Okay, I've read the regulations and still can't figure out the answer to
this question: If I received an IPC from a CFII one year after my last
BFR,
do I need to get another BFR in 12 months or 24 months from now??

Thanks in advance,

Larry

"Brad Z" wrote in message news:wgb4c.9456$bP2.70125@attbi_s53...
Not all CFII's can give BFR's.

You've lost me there. Why not?

If your flight instructor certificate only has a "instrument-airplane"
rating (i.e. no airplane single engine or Airplane multi engine)

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Brad Z" wrote in message
news:wgb4c.9456$bP2.70125@attbi_s53...
Not all CFII's can give BFR's.

You've lost me there. Why not?

A buddy of mine actually got his II and had no intention of getting his CFI. He since relented but that is another story.

Mike Z

"Brad Z" wrote in message news:gTl4c.16400$bP2.83279@attbi_s53...
If your flight instructor certificate only has a "instrument-airplane"
rating (i.e. no airplane single engine or Airplane multi engine)

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Brad Z" wrote in message
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Not all CFII's can give BFR's.

You've lost me there. Why not?

"Brad Z" wrote in message
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If your flight instructor certificate only has a "instrument-airplane"
rating (i.e. no airplane single engine or Airplane multi engine)


That is one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard, and that despite
the fact that I have been reading the news groups for years.... :-)

Why on earth would any instructor do that, and how could he possibly do any
CFII instruction in an airplane that he is not allowed to give instruction
in?

Someone getting an instrument rating in a tailwheel aircraft, and the
instructor doesn't have a tailwheel signoff comes to mind.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Brad Z" wrote in message
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If your flight instructor certificate only has a "instrument-airplane"
rating (i.e. no airplane single engine or Airplane multi engine)


That is one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard, and that despite
the fact that I have been reading the news groups for years.... :-)

Why on earth would any instructor do that, and how could he possibly do any
CFII instruction in an airplane that he is not allowed to give instruction
in?

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:50:15 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

Why on earth would any instructor do that, and how could he possibly do any
CFII instruction in an airplane that he is not allowed to give instruction
in?

I'm surprised you never came across it before.

This is a question that comes up from time to time and the common
wisdom has been that a CFI with only an "instrument airplane" rating,
but no "airplane" rating is permitted to provide instrument training
in an airplane, so long as he doesn't cross the line into teaching how
to fly the airplane itself.

Even John Lynch's Part 61 FAQ has taken this view, saying such things
as a CFII with no MEI =can't= give training in one-engine failure
during takeoff but =can= give instruction in single-engine operations
under instrument conditions.

Those FAQ paragraphs are going to become defunct. As a result of an
inquiry by Ron Levy, an instructor at the University of Maryland and a
regular contributor to Aviation Safety Magazine, the Eastern Region
FAA legal counsel has started the process of putting that one to rest.

There are still some things a CFII with no aircraft rating can do.
Ground instruction and flight training in a simulator are two of them.

As to why, it's pretty hokey, but there's some theory going around
that the CFI-I is easier, so, if you have to have an inspector for the
first ride, it might as well be the easier one.