Why Haven't Airbus A-320s Been Grounded?

sfb wrote:

If it was your mother-in-law's plane, no big deal at all.

"Mark T. Dame" wrote in message
...

I think that 1 would be an alarming rate if I happened to be flying it
at the time.

My mother-in-law is afraid of flying, so I don't have to worry about her
wings falling off. Now if we were talking about misplacing marbles...


-m
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KingAir wings falling off - at an "alarming rate"? Because you don't
have any King Air experience???


Could it be because a database search of the NTSB from 1962 to present,
using several different keyword combinations produced 0 records of such
incidents? Ever hear of the "world?"


Or the Google search, showing C-130's wings falling off, but not
KingAirs? You should learn how to "Google!" This is the company
that solved the problem after at least 5 King Airs had their wings fall
off:

http://www.nationalflight.com/aviadesigns.htm


Can you point us to evidence sufficient to warrant the insinuation
Do your own homework!


Karl
ATP----BE-300, CE-500, Lear Jet, DA-50

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KingAir wings falling off - at an "alarming rate"? Because you don't
have any King Air experience???


Not that type anyway!!




Could it be because a database search of the NTSB from 1962 to present,
using several different keyword combinations produced 0 records of such
incidents? Ever hear of the "world?"

Full-time resident!
That's the place where the NTSB conducts accident reports for
all US-maunfactured aircraft, isn't it?




Or the Google search, showing C-130's wings falling off, but not
KingAirs? You should learn how to "Google!" This is the company
that solved the problem after at least 5 King Airs had their wings fall
off:

http://www.nationalflight.com/aviadesigns.htm

Homework done. Commercial product found for sale.
The redundant load path may have as much to do with transport regulations as
actual accidents. More database searches - still 0.

If you know of five such accidents, perhaps you could show us one or two.
Then we could all learn something from this.If none of these were in the US,
why would you expect the FAA to act on it?


G Faris

My Mother in Law flies a broom so she doesn't have to worry about wings
falling off!

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Mark T. Dame" wrote in message
...
sfb wrote:

If it was your mother-in-law's plane, no big deal at all.

"Mark T. Dame" wrote in message
...

I think that 1 would be an alarming rate if I happened to be flying it at
the time.

My mother-in-law is afraid of flying, so I don't have to worry about her
wings falling off. Now if we were talking about misplacing marbles...


-m
--
## Mark T. Dame
## VP, Product Development
## MFM Software, Inc. (http://www.mfm.com/)
"The software isn't finished until the last user is dead."
-- Unknown

Jay Honeck wrote:

Is there some over-riding political reason the FAA doesn't want to offend
the Europeans right now?

I doubt it. As you said, once they were able to duplicate the rudder problem
with the 737, "the fix was pretty urgent."

The FAA doesn't issue an AD unless someone has proposed a fix. Apparently nobody
has come up with a fix for the Airbus problem, so there's no AD yet. I expect
that the FAA feels that there is insufficient cause to ground the entire Airbus
fleet over this. Michelle is probably correct that they will not take that step
unless somebody is killed in one of these incidents.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

sfb wrote:

If it was your mother-in-law's plane, no big deal at all.

Actually, I like my mother-in-law. Now, my *wife's* mother-in-law we could do
without.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

The FAA doesn't issue an AD unless someone has proposed a fix. Apparently
nobody has come up with a fix for the Airbus problem, so there's no AD
yet. I expect that the FAA feels that there is insufficient cause to
ground the entire Airbus fleet over this. Michelle is probably correct
that they will not take that step unless somebody is killed in one of
these incidents.

That's dumb.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

wrote:

The FAA has its hands full with the NWA replacement mechanics. Dead
birds
left in engines and engine flames on T.O. are becoming a frequent
occurance.

JG
What problems are the FAA having with NWA replacement mechanics? FYI,
most of the replacements have come from other legacy carriers such as US
Airways, United, etc. that have been laid off. They have plenty of
experience from their former jobs with those carriers. The only real
problem has been getting them accustomed to the paperwork that NWA uses.
Every airline uses different paperwork and computer tracking.

You say "dead birds", well the truth is, it was only ONE dead bird, and
it was found by the First Officer during his "routine" preflight.
Mechanics don't do preflights for every flight, they just do daily
checks, so it was the First Officer, doing exactly what he is supposed
to be doing before every flight, that found the bird.

Not sure what you are talking about with reference to the engine flames.

Setting the record straight,

BJ

Jay Honeck wrote:
The FAA doesn't issue an AD unless someone has proposed a fix. Apparently
nobody has come up with a fix for the Airbus problem, so there's no AD
yet. I expect that the FAA feels that there is insufficient cause to
ground the entire Airbus fleet over this. Michelle is probably correct
that they will not take that step unless somebody is killed in one of
these incidents.

That's dumb.

They call it an "airworthiness directive" for a reason. If they have no fix,
they can't "direct" you to do anything to fix the problem. So far the agencies
around the world such as the FAA seems to feel that this problem is unlikely to
cause anything more than some press excitement and purchase of replacement parts
and provide a little exercise for the emergency people.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.