Direct To a waypoint in flightplan on Garmin 430

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:23:54 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote:

wrote:

If you go direct, direct, enter it will activate the next leg rather
than direct.to

So I skip to the next waypoint with "direct", "direct", "enter"? And this
will give me the DTK etc. from my current position to that waypoint?

Perfect! Thanks for knowing this little box so well...

No. You only use "direct direct enter" if you want to go to the next
way point on the leg described in the flight plan. When the controller
clears you "direct to xxx" you want to select xxx and then press
"direct enter enter".

ArtP wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:23:54 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote:

wrote:

If you go direct, direct, enter it will activate the next leg rather
than direct.to

So I skip to the next waypoint with "direct", "direct", "enter"? And this
will give me the DTK etc. from my current position to that waypoint?

Perfect! Thanks for knowing this little box so well...

No. You only use "direct direct enter" if you want to go to the next
way point on the leg described in the flight plan. When the controller
clears you "direct to xxx" you want to select xxx and then press
"direct enter enter".

Hmm...I'm not sure how what you've written is different from what I've
written.

Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying - is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?

- Andrew

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:35:52 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote:


Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying - is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?


"direct direct enter" would set your course to intercept and fly the
SBJ-LANNA leg of your flight plan.

"direct enter enter" would fly direct to LANNA from your current
position.

The "direct direct enter" is used when you are told to "resume own
navigation" after a vector diversion. The "direct enter enter" is used
when you are "cleared direct to" a point.

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message online.com...
On the Bendex/King gear on which I learned, it was easy to skip to another
way point on the flight plan. And this was very convenient, as it comes up
fairly often when IFR, at least for me. For example, I'll very often be
told "direct SBJ" when leaving CDW, only get "direct ..." to the next
waypoint well before I reach SBJ.

All I needed to do was select "direct to", and I could then "knob" my way
through the waypoints on the flight plan. Pressing either "enter" or
"direct to" (I forget which; it's been a way) would have me direct to the
proper waypoint within the flight plan.

On the Garmin with which I fly now, though, I've only found a more
cumbersome way: Select the flight plan button to view the plan, cursor on,
knob to the proper entry, and then press "enter".

This is more work, and more head-down time. I was able to work the B/K gear
w/o looking if I was merely skipping to the next waypoint (press, turn one
click, press). I cannot do that with the Garmin as I need to cycle through
the flight plan once the cursor is on.

But...I vague remember learning a better way to do this with the Garmin.
Does anyone happen to know what it is?

Thanks...

Andrew


I cannot recommend enough the Garmin video for the unit. They really had some
nice hints that cover how to do things the quick way in it.

ArtP wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:35:52 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote:


Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying - is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?

"direct direct enter" would set your course to intercept and fly the
SBJ-LANNA leg of your flight plan.

That is what I was trying to say, although perhaps I could have worded it
better.



"direct enter enter" would fly direct to LANNA from your current
position.

The "direct direct enter" is used when you are told to "resume own
navigation" after a vector diversion. The "direct enter enter" is used
when you are "cleared direct to" a point.

Thanks to whoever pointed out the direct-direct-enter trick. I
somehow missed it when I read the manual. It's exactly what's
needed on the normal eastward departure from PAO (vecs
to join Vxxx) which up til now I've done using the VOR.
I guess that's why they put it there...

John

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ArtP wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:35:52 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote:


Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA
BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying -
is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would
it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?

"direct direct enter" would set your course to intercept and fly the
SBJ-LANNA leg of your flight plan.

That is what I was trying to say, although perhaps I could have worded it
better.



"direct enter enter" would fly direct to LANNA from your current
position.

The "direct direct enter" is used when you are told to "resume own
navigation" after a vector diversion. The "direct enter enter" is used
when you are "cleared direct to" a point.

wrote:

If you go direct, direct, enter it will activate the next leg rather
than direct.to

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...

So I skip to the next waypoint with "direct", "direct", "enter"? And this
will give me the DTK etc. from my current position to that waypoint?

Doesn't work on the sim. Of course it may be that my copy of the sim is
dated.

"direct", "direct", "enter" activates the *current* leg of the FPL. It
doesn't skip a leg.
"direct", "direct", "enter" and "direct", "enter", "enter" will toggle
between direct nav to the current waypoint and the active leg to the current
waypoint. Neither appears to change the current waypoint.

So...

Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying - is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?

"direct", "direct" offers to activate the leg from [wherever] to SBJ, not
LANNA.

The method shown in the manual for doing what you want is:

1 "direct"
2 rotate large knob to FPL field (usually three clicks clock)
3 rotate small knob to desired point (two clicks clock for the one beyond
current),
4 "enter"

So there is, apparently, one more step on the Garmin than on the B/K. It
would make more sense IMHO if the "select direct-to waypoint" page defaulted
to highlighting the FPL field and omitting step 2.

It's not much shorter than:

FPL
press for cursor
rotate large knob to desired point (two clicks clock for the one beyond
current),
"direct"
"enter"
"enter"

which is, I guess, what you were doing.

Julian Scarfe

It does work but you have to do it right...

FPL - cursor - twiddle to END of desired leg - direct - direct - enter.

It doesn't automatically skip to the next leg.

John

"Julian Scarfe" wrote in message
...
wrote:

If you go direct, direct, enter it will activate the next leg rather
than direct.to

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...

So I skip to the next waypoint with "direct", "direct", "enter"? And
this
will give me the DTK etc. from my current position to that waypoint?

Doesn't work on the sim. Of course it may be that my copy of the sim is
dated.

"direct", "direct", "enter" activates the *current* leg of the FPL. It
doesn't skip a leg.
"direct", "direct", "enter" and "direct", "enter", "enter" will toggle
between direct nav to the current waypoint and the active leg to the
current
waypoint. Neither appears to change the current waypoint.

So...

Let's assume that the flight plan currently in the GPS is SBJ LANNA
BOPLY
ETX ABE. The active waypoint - that to which we're currently flying -
is
SBJ. ATC clears me direct to LANNA.

Would "direct" "direct" "enter" change the waypoint to LANNA? Or would
it
leave it as SBJ? Or would it do something different?

"direct", "direct" offers to activate the leg from [wherever] to SBJ, not
LANNA.

The method shown in the manual for doing what you want is:

1 "direct"
2 rotate large knob to FPL field (usually three clicks clock)
3 rotate small knob to desired point (two clicks clock for the one beyond
current),
4 "enter"

So there is, apparently, one more step on the Garmin than on the B/K. It
would make more sense IMHO if the "select direct-to waypoint" page
defaulted
to highlighting the FPL field and omitting step 2.

It's not much shorter than:

FPL
press for cursor
rotate large knob to desired point (two clicks clock for the one beyond
current),
"direct"
"enter"
"enter"

which is, I guess, what you were doing.

Julian Scarfe

John Harper wrote:

It does work but you have to do it right...

FPL - cursor - twiddle to END of desired leg - direct - direct - enter.

It doesn't automatically skip to the next leg.

And, that is so you can elect to select a leg downstream if circumstances
warrant.

And, I should have added: even if you forget which waypoint to highlight with
the cursor it will prompt you with the leg that will be activated, to help keep
you out of doo doo.