Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

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"steve" wrote in message
. ..
| Sorry to start the email firestorm. Now that I know it is
not a legal
| activity, I will not use it.
|
| Besides, occasionally, having no way for your family to
conact you isn't
| always a bad thing. :-)
|
| "steve" wrote in message
| . ..
| Hi Everyone,
|
| Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a
backup handheld
| radio for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering
if it is permitted
| to use it so I can contact my family while flying over
the local area.
|
| I would use a frequency not used locally for any other
purposes.
|
| Your thoughts?
|
| --
| Thanks,
|
| Steve
|
| "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk
the Earth
| with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been,
and there
| you will always long to return"
| - Leonardo Da Vinci
|
|
|
|
|

"steve" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Everyone,

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a backup handheld
radio for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is permitted
to use it so I can contact my family while flying over the local area.

I would use a frequency not used locally for any other purposes.

Your thoughts?


Is there something wrong with the portable phone you carry on your belt (or
in your pocket)?

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:51:10 -0400, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea
Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote:
Is there something wrong with the portable phone you carry on your belt (or
in your pocket)?

Other than the fact that it is supposedly not legal to use while in
the air either? Of course, that assumes that you are in an area with
cell phone reception and your phone works acceptably in the air...
I've found that the few times that I've tried to use mine, I don't get
a signal long enough to complete a call if I'm over 500 ft AGL...

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:51:10 -0400, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea
Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote:
Is there something wrong with the portable phone you carry on your belt
(or
in your pocket)?

Other than the fact that it is supposedly not legal to use while in
the air either?

Only if it really is a cell phone (as defined by the FCC) - which are about
as common as 8 track tapes nowadays.

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

Jim Macklin wrote:
Sorry, it is published in the AIM, don't we all know that by
heart?


Jim,

If you'll see my post above, you'll see that although the AIM says
122.85 is valid for air-to-air, the FCC regs ( 47CFR87 ) say it's not.
The FCC regs are the ones which govern frequency usage, not the FAA.

Here's a snippet from an email I got from an FCC guy in DC that is
helping me out with this :

"Dear John: You are correct. Frequency 122.75 MHz is the only
designated air-to-air frequency and 122.85 MHz is designated for use in
the Grand Canyon area as well as 121.95 MHz and 127.05 MHz . You can
find that provision in 87.187 (bb) of the Rules.

You might point out to them that 87.323 is for Ground Stations;
communications from the ground to the air and it is primarily used
under this section on a secondary basis. The frequency 122.85 MHz is
primarily used and licensed to Aviation Multicom ground stations for
ground to air communications. (See 87.237 and 87.241) You can locate
our rules online at http://wireless.fcc.gov/rules.html "

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Pretty soon cell phones will be usable...



"steve" wrote in message . ..
: Sorry to start the email firestorm. Now that I know it is not a legal
: activity, I will not use it.
:
: Besides, occasionally, having no way for your family to conact you isn't
: always a bad thing. :-)
:
: "steve" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi Everyone,
:
: Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a backup handheld
: radio for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is permitted
: to use it so I can contact my family while flying over the local area.
:
: I would use a frequency not used locally for any other purposes.
:
: Your thoughts?
:
: --
: Thanks,
:
: Steve
:
: "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
: with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
: you will always long to return"
: - Leonardo Da Vinci
:
:
:
:
:
:

..Blueskies. wrote:
Pretty soon cell phones will be usable...

Most non-analog phones are legal, but usable is in the eye of the
beholder. The mobile phone companies got smart with the 2nd
generation of phones and angled most antennas towards the ground to
remove the problem of airborne use. I generally can't get a good
signal on a digital phone above 1,500 ft. AGL. You location and
mileage may vary.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

I can't even get my cell phone to work at the top of the empire state
building.

Mike Schumann

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:51:10 -0400, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea
Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote:
Is there something wrong with the portable phone you carry on your belt
(or
in your pocket)?

Other than the fact that it is supposedly not legal to use while in
the air either? Of course, that assumes that you are in an area with
cell phone reception and your phone works acceptably in the air...
I've found that the few times that I've tried to use mine, I don't get
a signal long enough to complete a call if I'm over 500 ft AGL...