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Old December 7th 06, 08:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt
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A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


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Old December 7th 06, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"gatt" wrote in message
...

A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


That first picture looks lime they had used duct tape.... Real big duct
tape.


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Old December 7th 06, 09:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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gatt wrote:
A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


When I was reviewing my Eclipse order I noticed that they offer skid
plates on the bottom of the plane. They right out admit that its to
reduce damage if I forget to put down the gear.

-Robert

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Old December 7th 06, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...

gatt wrote:
A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


When I was reviewing my Eclipse order I noticed that they offer skid
plates on the bottom of the plane. They right out admit that its to
reduce damage if I forget to put down the gear.

-Robert


And it is only a 0.5 AMU option. I didn't know there was such a thing as a
$500 option on a jet. Hell, the Ice chest.... I mean Refreshment Center
costs $5,995.


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Old December 8th 06, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default OUCHOUCHOUCH wheels-up B1 landing

They did, factory test pilots just after Oshkosh last year.


The Beechjet 400 also has a reinforced belly.



"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| gatt wrote:
| A friend on another forum posted this in response to an
e-mail received
| about a bf110 recovery in Europe:
|
|
| http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html
|
| When I was reviewing my Eclipse order I noticed that they
offer skid
| plates on the bottom of the plane. They right out admit
that its to
| reduce damage if I forget to put down the gear.
|
| -Robert
|


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Old December 8th 06, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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Default OUCHOUCHOUCH wheels-up B1 landing

read the web again... it was at Diego Garcia..
that is in the middle of the INDIAN OCEAN not EUROPE
and it is not a bf110

and "they were not my students"

BT
Retired B-1 Instructor


"gatt" wrote in message
...

A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html



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Old December 8th 06, 01:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt
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Read the freakin' e-mail again. I said it was IN RESPONSE TO an e-mail
received about a bf110 recovery in Europe.

Jeez. Some people got nothing to say about the topic but they attack the
messenger anyway. I don't care if you were a B-1 instructor or Orville
freakin' Wright: Enjoy the link and/or STFU.

By the way--now don't freak out here, I know it's not a B-1-- a friend whom
I helped research an SB-17 wreck in northern Washington got an e-mail that
states:

We have found aircraft Bf Messerschmitt 110 in Black sea. Aircraft lays on
depth of 35 m. We plan to take out it from water in June 2007.

If you have interest to this aircraft, pls make offer. We have videofilm
25Mb.

-c


"BT" wrote in message
...
read the web again... it was at Diego Garcia..
that is in the middle of the INDIAN OCEAN not EUROPE
and it is not a bf110

and "they were not my students"

BT
Retired B-1 Instructor


"gatt" wrote in message
...

A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html





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Old December 8th 06, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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("gatt" wrote)
Jeez. Some people got nothing to say about the topic but they attack the
messenger anyway. I don't care if you were a B-1 instructor or Orville
freakin' Wright: Enjoy the link and/or STFU.



1. I enjoyed the link
2. I think it's neat that BT is a retired B-1 Instructor.
3. I understand BT's putting 2+2 together ...considering:

http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html
"A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:"


I will now STFU ...Stay Tuned For Underdog (In Color)
http://www.toontracker.com/totaltv/underdog.htm


Montblack-and-white-TV-at-our-house


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Old December 8th 06, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default OUCHOUCHOUCH wheels-up B1 landing

To BT,
If the details...
At about 10 p.m. local time on May 8, 2006, a 7th Bomb Wing
B-1B Lancer based at Dyess AFB, Texas, made a wheels-up
belly landing on runway 31 at Diego Garcia, skidding 7,500
feet down the runway. The aircraft was landing at the end of
an 11 hour ferry mission that started at Andersen AFB,
Guam. During the landing, the B-1B caught fire and
emergency crews extinguished the flames. The four-person
aircrew escaped from the plane through the overhead escape
hatch. The aircraft was finally removed from the runway 4
days later. The Air Force Accident Investigation concluded
the pilots forgot to lower the landing gear. The USAF
estimated the damage to the B-1B at $7.9 million, and the
damage to the runway at $14,025. RBRM and those old SEABEES
made one tough runway, that's for sure! For those of you
who've never seen a $285,000,000.00 bomber on the deck, here
she is:
http://www.zianet.com:80/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html to
see pictures...
I have several questions..
1. It was a night landing and the lights are or appear to
be on the gear legs, are no light landings normal ?

2. With the gear up and normal power settings, wouldn't
the speed be much higher?

3 Doesn't the crew both check gear down lights? Has tyhe
USAF stopped using tower controllers procedures, "Check gear
down, cleared to land?"

4. What is the chance they were doing a hoigh speed low
pass and just got too low?



"BT" wrote in message
...
| read the web again... it was at Diego Garcia..
| that is in the middle of the INDIAN OCEAN not EUROPE
| and it is not a bf110
|
| and "they were not my students"
|
| BT
| Retired B-1 Instructor
|
|
| "gatt" wrote in message
| ...
|
| A friend on another forum posted this in response to an
e-mail received
| about a bf110 recovery in Europe:
|
|
| http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html
|
|
|


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Old December 8th 06, 05:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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Default OUCHOUCHOUCH wheels-up B1 landing

well... it might have been nice to see the link about the bf..
as it is written.. it implies that this link is about the bf..

BT

"gatt" wrote in message
...

Read the freakin' e-mail again. I said it was IN RESPONSE TO an e-mail
received about a bf110 recovery in Europe.

Jeez. Some people got nothing to say about the topic but they attack the
messenger anyway. I don't care if you were a B-1 instructor or Orville
freakin' Wright: Enjoy the link and/or STFU.

By the way--now don't freak out here, I know it's not a B-1-- a friend
whom I helped research an SB-17 wreck in northern Washington got an e-mail
that states:

We have found aircraft Bf Messerschmitt 110 in Black sea. Aircraft lays
on depth of 35 m. We plan to take out it from water in June 2007.

If you have interest to this aircraft, pls make offer. We have videofilm
25Mb.

-c


"BT" wrote in message
...
read the web again... it was at Diego Garcia..
that is in the middle of the INDIAN OCEAN not EUROPE
and it is not a bf110

and "they were not my students"

BT
Retired B-1 Instructor


"gatt" wrote in message
...

A friend on another forum posted this in response to an e-mail received
about a bf110 recovery in Europe:


http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html







 




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