VW engines by metric AP

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

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FF

wrote:

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

--

FF


Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

On Jul 26, 5:05 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:
wrote:
Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

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FF

wrote:
On Jul 26, 5:05 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:

wrote:

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?


I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

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FF




I dunno, Fred.

After some of the engines I've seen built by so called "experts"
I'd really suggest contacting Great Plains and build your own.

It's not hard to do if you follow the instructions and keep everything
clean.

And you KNOW what's in it.

As hard as these little guys have to run in order to fly, don't
take any chances with unknown (or used) stuff.

My $2 (worth 2 cents?)


Richard

On Jul 26, 8:30 pm, cavelamb himself
wrote:
wrote:

...

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.


....


I dunno, Fred.

After some of the engines I've seen built by so called "experts"
I'd really suggest contacting Great Plains and build your own.

No worries.

I'm simply making a good-faith effort to check out what few tidbits
of information they can be persuaded to release.

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FF

On Jul 27, 1:30 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 26, 5:05 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:

wrote:

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

....

I dunno, Fred.


I wrote to Bradley Aerospace saying that I could not find any
information on metric A/P, and aksed if they could refer me to
a website or at least give me their location, as in city, state, or
country.

Here is BA's reply:

"Metric A/p They have been building my engines for 12 years.
Thank you"

That's it. Why would anyone bother to reply to a request for
information, without providing any information?

It boggles the mind.

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FF

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

...

I dunno, Fred.

I wrote to Bradley Aerospace saying that I could not find any
information on metric A/P, and aksed if they could refer me to
a website or at least give me their location, as in city, state, or
country.

Here is BA's reply:

"Metric A/p They have been building my engines for 12 years.
Thank you"

That's it. Why would anyone bother to reply to a request for
information, without providing any information?

It boggles the mind.

Metric Auto Parts & Services
1023 W 8th St, Chico, CA
(530) 345-0074

On Jul 30, 6:33 pm, flybynightkarmarepair wrote:
....
Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?
...

Metric Auto Parts & Services
1023 W 8th St, Chico, CA
(530) 345-0074

I'll bet that's who he means.

I wonder if I should call them and ask if they do aero-conversions.

Thanks.
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FF

On Jul 30, 6:33 pm, flybynightkarmarepair wrote:
Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

...

I dunno, Fred.

I wrote to Bradley Aerospace saying that I could not find any
information on metric A/P, and aksed if they could refer me to
a website or at least give me their location, as in city, state, or
country.

Here is BA's reply:

"Metric A/p They have been building my engines for 12 years.
Thank you"

That's it. Why would anyone bother to reply to a request for
information, without providing any information?

It boggles the mind.

Metric Auto Parts & Services
1023 W 8th St, Chico, CA
(530) 345-0074

Well I wrote to BA again through ebay and received a reply
suggested I use their business address (a yahoo address).

So I sent this:


You indicate that a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
will be included with the kit in the auction.

I have asked, repeatedly, for information about
the manufacturer of the kit. You say they are
metric A/P. I was unable to find any company
by that same and asked some other folks familiar
with homebuilt aircraft and they don't know who
they are either.

I have asked you for more information, but so
far have received nothing.

Obviously I would like to find out more
about them and their engines. At this
point, you haven't even told me what
COUNTRY they are in!

Do you understand?

And received a prompt, one-word reply:

"no"

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FF

On Jul 27, 1:30 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 26, 5:05 am, cavelamb himself
wrote:

wrote:

Has anybody here heard of VW aeroconversions by a company
called metric A/P? Any experiences good or bad?

I haven't been able to find them on the Web.

...

Never heard of him...

How big is this company?

I have yet to find evidence that they exist. Consequently,
speculation as to their size would be unwarranted.

According to Bradley Aerospace the engine included with the kit
they have up for auction on eBay is a 1600 cc VW aeroconversion
made by metric A/P.

--

FF

I dunno, Fred.

After some of the engines I've seen built by so called "experts"
I'd really suggest contacting Great Plains and build your own.

It's not hard to do if you follow the instructions and keep everything
clean.

And you KNOW what's in it.

I've also been thinking that one could design a radial engine
that uses off-the-shelf VW cylinders, pistons and maybe
even scat heads. As with most such ideas, someone else
has already tried it:

http://www.hciaviation.com/pricing.shtml#standard

$ 5200

A set of pistons, wrist pins and cylinders runs anywhere from
a little over $100.00 to maybe $500 unless you get really
wild. Add that to the ignition components, bearings,
belts etc and I would guess you'd maybe have another $1000
in parts -- $6200 total?

Do you folks think their horsepower estimate (75 HP) is reasonable?
Do you think they would have better cooling inside of a NACAR
cowl than does a typical flat-four installation?


Compare that to a Great Plains 1600 cc VW long block -- $1800
Plus an accessory package, at least -- $1300
Plus their dual ignition accessoriy kit --
$700
Plus filters, bolts, (belts?) etc maybe ~
$100

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Total
$3900


Or for a 2800 cc '80 HP' Total ~
$5800

So it looks like maybe they can be cost competitive with
the bigger displacement VWs.

Meanwhile, does the term "aircraft A/P" mean anything to
anyone here? As in a person who makes airplane engines?

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FF