Full procedure versu vectors

With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full procedure GPS
approaches rather than take vectors. Does it complicate life for controllers
when you request the full procedure? I get the feeling that they would
rather vector me on the ILS than have me shoot a GPS full approach.

I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating controllers
and mucking up things by doing so.


Wyatt Emmerich
President, Emmerich Newspapers
601-977-0470

PO Box 16709, Jackson MS 39236
Shipping: 246 Briarwood Drive, Suite 101, Jackson MS 39206

Wyatt Emmerich wrote:
With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full procedure GPS
approaches rather than take vectors. Does it complicate life for controllers
when you request the full procedure? I get the feeling that they would
rather vector me on the ILS than have me shoot a GPS full approach.

I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating controllers
and mucking up things by doing so.


Vectors are easier to the controller because then I get to control the
proceedings. If you're doing the PT then there's no telling when you
actually start down final. Doesn't work as well with other traffic.

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in
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With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full
procedure GPS approaches rather than take vectors. Does it complicate
life for controllers when you request the full procedure? I get the
feeling that they would rather vector me on the ILS than have me shoot
a GPS full approach.

I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating
controllers and mucking up things by doing so.


Depends. if you are the only one in the sky, they couldn't care less.

Ad some traffic and stir lightly and you have a different story.

Bertie

So what should I say: "Request full GPS 16 approach if you're not too busy?"

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Wyatt Emmerich
President, Emmerich Newspapers
601-977-0470

PO Box 16709, Jackson MS 39236
Shipping: 246 Briarwood Drive, Suite 101, Jackson MS 39206
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in
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With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full
procedure GPS approaches rather than take vectors. Does it complicate
life for controllers when you request the full procedure? I get the
feeling that they would rather vector me on the ILS than have me shoot
a GPS full approach.

I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating
controllers and mucking up things by doing so.


Depends. if you are the only one in the sky, they couldn't care less.

Ad some traffic and stir lightly and you have a different story.

Bertie

On Nov 7, 11:58 am, "Wyatt Emmerich" wrote:
With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full procedure GPS
approaches rather than take vectors. Does it complicate life for controllers
when you request the full procedure? I get the feeling that they would
rather vector me on the ILS than have me shoot a GPS full approach.

I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating controllers
and mucking up things by doing so.


Can you elaborate on why you feel the full precure is easier than
vectors?

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in
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So what should I say: "Request full GPS 16 approach if you're not too
busy?"


Pretty much. If you need to do it you need to do it. if it's just for fun
or practice, you're blocking traffic if there is any.

Bertie

On 11/7/2007 11:58:50 AM, "Wyatt Emmerich" wrote:


I like the GPS full approach but I don't want to be irritating controllers
and mucking up things by doing so.

If the airport is a low volume airport, perhaps, but add any other inbound or
outbound traffic (if the airport is uncontrolled) to the equation and full
procedure approaches would tie everyone up and even increase controller
workload.

Why are vectored approaches with the GPS a problem? (My Bonanza is equipped
with a GNS430W)

--
Peter

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in message
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With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full procedure
GPS approaches rather than take vectors.


Full procedure GPS approaches? Do you mean proceeding direct to an IAF on a
basic-T approach versus being vectored to join the FAC?



Does it complicate life for
controllers when you request the full procedure?


Not if there's no other traffic.

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in message
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So what should I say: "Request full GPS 16 approach if you're not too
busy?"


"Request full GPS 16 approach" should be sufficient.

By full approach, I mean flying it as published. Usually a T approach, but
sometimes there's a hold as part of the approach. Flying the full approach
is easier with the WAAS. You don't have to input headings on the heading
bug. It is more predictable because it's published. No chance of
miscommunication on vectors. No constantly adjusting the heading bug. No
chance of the controller bringing you around to close of an automatic
glideslope couples.

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Wyatt Emmerich
President, Emmerich Newspapers
601-977-0470

PO Box 16709, Jackson MS 39236
Shipping: 246 Briarwood Drive, Suite 101, Jackson MS 39206
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in message
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With my 530 upgraded to WAAS, I think it's easier to fly full procedure
GPS approaches rather than take vectors.


Full procedure GPS approaches? Do you mean proceeding direct to an IAF on
a basic-T approach versus being vectored to join the FAC?



Does it complicate life for
controllers when you request the full procedure?


Not if there's no other traffic.