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Old June 19th 12, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brad[_2_]
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This is not the moment to
learn to do a fast contest buttonhook.





John Cochrane


is a fast contest button hook a safe maneuver to do at any time?

freeflying OR contest finish.

Thanks,
Brad

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Old June 19th 12, 07:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Jun 19, 10:50*am, Ron Gleason wrote:

The 3rd area where WS needs help is with MAT's. *WS does a good job determining what TP's were accomplished but may not get the best speed. *Each flight will need to be reviewed based on what the pilot submits.


One quick follow-up to this: Winscore *is* a good tool overall; but I
have also seen it guess MATs wrong when it auto-claims a TP a second
time, without the pilot visiting two other TPs before returning to the
earlier TP. For example, "9, 26, 40, 26, 18" - which is not valid
since the pilot returned to TP 26 too soon. The correct MAT claim
would be "9, 26, 40, 18". Or perhaps "9, 26, 40, XX, 26 ,18" where
"XX" is some TP that Winscore missed - or, more likely, a TP where the
pilot barely nicked the 1sm cylinder and didn't get a valid GPS fix in
before leaving the cylinder.

Also, the recent rules-change for low finishes may not be fully
incorporated into Winscore... I ran into a situation last week where
Winscore applied a "rolling finish" to my task/score because I came
home about 400 feet below the gate (rain at 4 miles out washed me
down)... But the new finish rules stipulated I should be marked as a
landout, no rolling finish allowed. It took a bit of fiddling with
Winscore to get it right (partly because 9 of 12 pilots in our class
didn't make it home due to the weather, so the day was devalued and I
had the longest distance with my pseudo-finish so the calcs got
wonky).

But for the vast majority of circumstances, Winscore gets it right.

--Noel

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Old June 19th 12, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ron Gleason
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Default Winscore finish cylinder setup

On Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:53:33 UTC-6, noel.wade wrote:
On Jun 19, 10:50*am, Ron Gleason wrote:

The 3rd area where WS needs help is with MAT's. *WS does a good job determining what TP's were accomplished but may not get the best speed. *Each flight will need to be reviewed based on what the pilot submits.


One quick follow-up to this: Winscore *is* a good tool overall; but I
have also seen it guess MATs wrong when it auto-claims a TP a second
time, without the pilot visiting two other TPs before returning to the
earlier TP. For example, "9, 26, 40, 26, 18" - which is not valid
since the pilot returned to TP 26 too soon. The correct MAT claim
would be "9, 26, 40, 18". Or perhaps "9, 26, 40, XX, 26 ,18" where
"XX" is some TP that Winscore missed - or, more likely, a TP where the
pilot barely nicked the 1sm cylinder and didn't get a valid GPS fix in
before leaving the cylinder.

Also, the recent rules-change for low finishes may not be fully
incorporated into Winscore... I ran into a situation last week where
Winscore applied a "rolling finish" to my task/score because I came
home about 400 feet below the gate (rain at 4 miles out washed me
down)... But the new finish rules stipulated I should be marked as a
landout, no rolling finish allowed. It took a bit of fiddling with
Winscore to get it right (partly because 9 of 12 pilots in our class
didn't make it home due to the weather, so the day was devalued and I
had the longest distance with my pseudo-finish so the calcs got
wonky).

But for the vast majority of circumstances, Winscore gets it right.

--Noel


What Noel says - WS get the vast majority of situations correct. What we are talking about here are the exceptions. WS has all the data and tools within it to assist the scorer and CD in determining the best way to handle these situation(s).
 




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