CFI in IMC with Student

Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2005-12-12, Jay Somerset wrote:

It's certainly legal, but can the student count it as "Instrument
Instruction" when adding up the number of required hours before the
checkride? I think not.


Even if the CFI was a CFII, the primary student's instrument experience
would not apply to the instrument rating requirements. Would it apply
to the private "flight by reference to instruments" or whatever it's
called? Why not? Part of my private pilot "hood time" was in actual.


Flight experience doesnt expire. If the time is dual given by a CFII,
then that time is loggable towards the eventual completion of an
instrument rating. There is no limitation on the Instrument Instruction
given by an authorized instructor based on the "student" pilot rating or
lack therof.

If your CFI for your private was a CFII as well, that time does count
for instrument instruction. If not, it counts for instrument
experience/training/hood time/whatever name you want to put on the
category. Given that MOST pilots require more than the bare minimums to
earn endorsement as proficient, those 3 hours as a private probably wont
be a deal breaker.

In my case, I have instrument experience and instruction that nearly
completes the requirements for an instrument rating. Its also nearly 4
years old. I wont be starting over, but when all the time is added up
when I finally restart and get the rating, it wont be anywheres near the
minimum required hours.

Dave