The Superior King Tiger

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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LOL.... nobody is saying that the Leo's are bad tanks. I haven't heard one
person say that at all. They are fine tanks. German's are great (if
somewhat
overzealous) engineers. What we are saying, however, is that the Leo's are
totally unproven in combat, and that all final judgements regarding any
weapons system is contingent upon actual combat experience. The M1 series
has plenty of combat time under it's belt, and has performed, by all
measures, splendidly. It is a combat proven system and is a better tank
than
the Leopard. It has better armor, excellent targeting systems, and it
fires
a better round. Period. You need to get over it.

As for it being 'Europe's premere MBT', what do you expect? It is probably
better than the LeClerc (another parade ground princess), and pigs will
fly
before the protectionist European governments buy big-ticket items from
the
USA (and they don't need to; their domestic defense industries are
adequate), but you have to understand that the military just isn't a
priority there in Europe. The military is in fact on the bottom of their
list. So you cannot expect a nation which takes a 'military-last' attitude
to produce equipment superior to the USA, which actually may need to use
the
stuff at some point.

Challenger II?

And anyone who says Russian tanks are garbage outta have his ass
shipped out in an M-1A2 and land on the outskirts of Moscow in 50
degree below zero weather with Mils, Migs, and Sukhois flying about
and Russian troops armed with ATGWs.

One tank against the entire russian armed forces? Sure, what the hell....

But seriously, you are just being an idiot now (moreso). The scenario you
just described is pretty much EXACTLY what the M1 tank was designed for.
And
you are also assuming that we would not have achieved air superiority
before
sending our armor in; which we would havem being that it is the US
tactical
doctorine to only send in ground forces after the air is secured. And the
only bigger joke than the Russian army is the Russian air force (well
maybe
it's tied with their navy). We don't fight wars with just tanks.

No takers?... didn't think so since the M-1A2 is confined to attacking
puny nations with poor import stripped armor of the FSU crewed by
sand-dwelling conscripts.

LOL... 'confined'... whatever you say. And I'm not so sure that the modern
Russian tank crews are any better trained than the Iraqi's were. Our armed
forces are a total and complete overmatch for any other armed force on the
globe. Period. It's not even close.

Yeah, you are certainly doing a good job in Iraq just now.



Tanks and all.

John