Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.


Yep. It's funny how liberals have to try to hide the fact that their
liberals in order to get elected to higher office. If they run on their
record, then they don't have a chance in hell.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.


Let's see if I have the neocon logic right.


You don't use logic.



Bush who never saw combat or fired a shot in anger or met the
enemy is a hero.


Who said Bush is a hero?



But Kerry, wounded many times in combat, awarded a Silver Star
and three Purple Hearts is a coward.


Who said Kerry is a coward?



Right neocons? What a sick bunch you are.


Who are the neocons?

And your still flying that bar stool ya drunk.




The Durango 95 purred away real horrorshow. A nice warm vibratey feeling all
through your guttiwuts.

"ArtKramr" wrote

Let's see if I have the neocon logic right. Bush who never saw combat or fired
a shot in anger or met the enemy is a hero. But Kerry, wounded many times in
combat, awarded a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts is a coward. Right
neocons? What a sick bunch you are.

You don't have it right. Bush and Kerry's military service have nothing to
do with leading a nuclear world power of 300 million people.

What's a neocon?

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

Kerry said in a
little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published
in
1986.

Is this the book going for over $100 on ebay because the DNC is trying to
buy
them all up? Apparently, in the book, Kerry talks about not getting his
deferment either. Seems Kerry tried to be like Dick Cheney, but was turned
down.

Different book, according to the article I read which excerpted his
comments. This was from some kind of compendium with contributions from
various Vietnam veterans. But hey, if you are looking for Kerry
contradictions in regards to his Vietnam service, look no further than David
Brinkley's "Tour of Duty', which was commissioned by Kerry himself
(something he is likely now regretting if he has any sense at all) and which
used his own personal journals as a primary source. In that book he actually
provides evidence *supporting* a couple of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
accusations (i.e., he claims at one point that he had not been under enemy
fire on the date which he received his first Purple Heart, and his journal
entry from his *last* mission indicates he really wondered what it was like
on the other side of the Cambodian border--which kind of brings into
question that bit that was supposedly "seared" into his memory...). The book
you are referring to is the one that featured more of his "Vietnam vets are
war criminals" crap, IIRC, and which apparently his tribe has indeed gone to
great lengths to make unavailable whenever possible.

Brooks



BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Is this the book going for over $100 on ebay because the DNC is trying to
buy
them all up? Apparently, in the book, Kerry talks about not getting his
deferment either. Seems Kerry tried to be like Dick Cheney, but was turned
down.


Wasn't John Edwards like Dick Cheney? Wasn't he in college prior to the
draft lottery?

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:35:38 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
wrote:


Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.

LOL.....sure, you could argue it, but you'd be wrong. An interceptor
unit in Texas flying soon to be obsolete aircraft was not exactly the
'Tip of the Spear' of national defense.

Bush was in a chamgaigne unit to avoid the draft. Plain and simple.
However, he couldn't even honorably complete that cushy mission
without disappearing for a year.

When mandatory drug testing was implemented as part of all flight
physicals, Bush refused to take his required physical and grounded
himself. Shortly afterwards he disappeared. You connect the dots.

All his life Bush has had others to make excuses for him and cover up
his failures. That still holds true today.


To know the neocon chickenhawks.... watch what they do .... not what
they say...... Jack

Subject: Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.
From: Jack
Date: 9/6/2004 6:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:35:38 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
wrote:


Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.

LOL.....sure, you could argue it, but you'd be wrong. An interceptor
unit in Texas flying soon to be obsolete aircraft was not exactly the
'Tip of the Spear' of national defense.

Bush was in a chamgaigne unit to avoid the draft. Plain and simple.
However, he couldn't even honorably complete that cushy mission
without disappearing for a year.

When mandatory drug testing was implemented as part of all flight
physicals, Bush refused to take his required physical and grounded
himself. Shortly afterwards he disappeared. You connect the dots.

All his life Bush has had others to make excuses for him and cover up
his failures. That still holds true today.


To know the neocon chickenhawks.... watch what they do .... not what
they say...... Jack


They will say anything. but all they will do is give tax cuts to their rich
friends and avoid military duty while they send others out to die. Then they
will reward corporations for sending jobs overseas. Worst administration in
American history.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


Wasn't John Edwards like Dick Cheney? Wasn't he in college prior to the
draft lottery?

Naw, Cheney was never a scum-sicking ambulance chaser, and
never was responsible for quadrupling the cost of health care
in his home state.
Besides, Edwards was in high school prior to the lottery which
came about during the final two years of the VN war.

"ArtKramr" wrote

They will say anything.

They will

but all they will do is give tax cuts to their rich

their rich

friends and avoid military duty while they send others out to die.

they send

Then they will reward corporations for sending jobs overseas.

they will

Worst administration in American history.

It's all "their" fault