Vietnam Joyride? Or Urban Legend?

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 05:54:10 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:


that a USAF pilot took his girlfriend on a joyride in the backseat of an
aircraft (unknown as to type: either F-4, F-100F, F-105F, or B-57) on a mission
over NVN-and they were shot down

Well, the last bit is surely an urban legend.


I know of one Colonel who did take his nurse girlfriend for a backseat
ride in an F-4 out of Korat. I know that he was identified in the
arming area by the quick-check crews and reported although nothing
much came of it.

I don't think it was a combat mission. Much more likely a functional
check flight or possibly just a support mission in the local area.
I've never heard of anyone taking a female, non-crewmember on a combat
mission during SEA or getting shot down in the process.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
"Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights"
Both from Smithsonian Books
***www.thunderchief.org

Wasn't there some sort of yarn like this in the book "Doom Pussy" be Elaine
Sheppard?

Jan Howell

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 08:21:13 -0600, Ed Rasimus
wrote:

I know of one Colonel who did take his nurse girlfriend for a backseat
ride in an F-4 out of Korat

Likely this story got around and made its way into the novel. She was
a nurse, too, but from Saigon, and the pilot was likewise stationed in
VN, perhaps Bien Hoa. It's been a while since I read the yarn, which
my wife picked up at a book-swap sale.

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Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 05:54:10 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:


that a USAF pilot took his girlfriend on a
joyride in the backseat of an
aircraft (unknown as to type: either F-4,
F-100F, F-105F, or B-57) on a mission
over NVN-and they were shot down

Well, the last bit is surely an urban legend.


I know of one Colonel who did take his nurse
girlfriend for a backseat
ride in an F-4 out of Korat. I know that he
was identified in the
arming area by the quick-check crews and reported
although nothing
much came of it.

I don't think it was a combat mission. Much
more likely a functional
check flight or possibly just a support mission
in the local area.
I've never heard of anyone taking a female,
non-crewmember on a combat
mission during SEA or getting shot down in the
process.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
"Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights"
Both from Smithsonian Books
***www.thunderchief.org
The reporting officer (an AF Lt.Col) was at 7th AF/MACV. He would have
been in a position to know, and he certainly wouldn't have passed on a rumor.
The original subject was about a pair of Caucasian males and a female held
by the NVA in Laos in the 1967-68 time frame, and he was wondering if the
two stories were related; Unfortunately, the school's copy of the report
has the name of the reporting officer blacked out. ABout the reported joyride-what
I posted is all there is, unfortunately. So, if it's an Urban Legend, how'd
it get started?

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