Russia Threatens to Strike Terror Bases

From: (Denyav)


Nuclear tipped ICBMs are not very suitable weapons aganist terrorists, but
they are excellent weapons to deter countries that use terrorists as proxies.
The recipients of Putins televised message is without any doubt are Anglos who
use Al-Queda and other so called islamic terrorists as proxies to realize their
domestic and foreign policy goals.

Putins message is only a lightly disguised way of saying to US "Stop Al-Queda
terrorism inside Russia,or else".

If they are really serious,I am pretty sure that so called islamic terrorism
will take a vacation in Russia.

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.

Maybe you didn't see the news of the 9-11 attacks. We are looking to kill Osama
bin Laden. Al-Qaeda and it affiliated groups are as much the enemies of the US
as they are the enemies of Russia. We have a common enemy and should cooperate
in its destruction.

I am appalled that our (the US) state department is apparently so far behind
the learning curve that it thinks negotiations with terrorists are some type of
acceptable solution.
Dave

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any
way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.

Really?

Maybe you didn't see the news of the 9-11 attacks. We are looking to kill
Osama
bin Laden. Al-Qaeda and it affiliated groups are as much the enemies of the
US

Looks are always deceiving,and nothing is so simple.
Do you know how WWII started?
With the attack of Polish Army !.
But those polish attackers were actualy Germans in polish uniform and ALL of
them were killed during attack by Germans in German uniform.

they are the enemies of Russia. We have a common enemy and should cooperate
in its destruction.

Is it not interesting that Al-Quade that conducted 9/11 attacks and made the
occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan possible is now targeting countries that
OPPOSE US occupation of Iraq ?

This a typical PSYOP exactly designed to produce the results you mentioned.


I am appalled that our (the US) state department is apparently so far behind
the learning curve that it thinks negotiations with terrorists are some type
of
acceptable solution.
Dave

After Putin speech operation of Al-Queda terrorists inside Russia for purposes
of destablizing Russia will be very limited or totally eliminated.(unless
Anglos risk a nuclear exchange).
So instead of using terrorists for polirical goals,now more diplomatic and
globally acceptable methods will be used .

"Dav1936531" wrote in message
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From: (Denyav)

If they are really serious,I am pretty sure that so called islamic
terrorism
will take a vacation in Russia.

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any
way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.


But then Denyav is delusional.

This is the fellow that claims the Nazis gave the americans the
atomic bomb remember.





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But then Denyav is delusional.

This is the fellow that claims the Nazis gave the americans the
atomic bomb remember.

How Mr.Alvares learned how to "clean up some wires" at the virtually last
minute or how US uran production spiked in June 45?

Big lies dont last for forever Mr.Willshaw,75 years is enough for such lies.

BTW do you really think Putin and other russians are so dumb to threaten OBL
and other Kalashnikow toting terrorists with nuclear tipped ICBMs?

Intended recipient of his message is not Kalashnikow toting terrorists but
their owners.

As I said before I admire Great Game playing skills of Brits but it seems that
the russians are now saying "no Great Game anymore or else" basically.
Looks like they have learned how to stop Anglo agression from Mr.Philby

From: "Keith Willshaw"
Date: 9/9/2004 4:35 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Dav1936531" wrote in message
...
From: (Denyav)

If they are really serious,I am pretty sure that so called islamic
terrorism
will take a vacation in Russia.

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any
way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.


But then Denyav is delusional.

This is the fellow that claims the Nazis gave the americans the
atomic bomb remember.

He also said the Nazis yested 2 atomic bombs and that the Russians had won in
Chechnya and all was quiet.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He also said the Nazis yested 2 atomic bombs and that the Russians had won in
Chechnya and all was quiet.


If you have any doubts about German nuclear bombs you must ask yourself only 2
questions:
1) How Dr.Alvares learned "how to clean up some wires" at the literally last
moment?

2)Why and how US uran production spiked in June 45?

Germany nuclear technology was till occupation in April 2 years ahead of Anglo
technology and Anglo bosses were aware of this.
And that was the real reason why Anglos needed Normandy landings.

Heck the German nuclear technology which supposed to be used by Japanase
aganist advancing Americans used by Americans aganist retreating Japanase.

Regarding Checnya: I did not post anything about Chechnya , much less said that
Russians had won.

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
He also said the Nazis yested 2 atomic bombs and that the Russians had
won in
Chechnya and all was quiet.


snip

Germany nuclear technology was till occupation in April 2 years ahead of
Anglo
technology and Anglo bosses were aware of this.
And that was the real reason why Anglos needed Normandy landings.

This is pure fantasy.

Heck the German nuclear technology which supposed to be used by Japanase
aganist advancing Americans used by Americans aganist retreating Japanase.

It is just possible that a small amount of captured German fissile material
was used against Japan.

John

This is pure fantasy.

Why Eisenhover in his book "Crusade in Europa" stated that if the occupation of
Germany delayed only by a couple of months,mankind would have faced its
biggest disaster.
Dont forget Germany was practically defeated in 1942 and in 1945 Wehrmacht
could find only kids and senior citizens to fill its ranks.
So how could such badly defeated country present such a gigantic danger if
allies were late only by a couple of months?.
Answer was Third Reichs S-weapons program which included nuclear weapons.

With exception of SS own nuclear program Anglo management was aware of every
development in third reich,including the achivements of von Ardenne/Houtermanns
and Diebner teams.
So they with exception of SS work had an excellent picture of German research
and they concluded that the Germans were two years ahead of Manhattan Project
and the gap was was widening.
So D-Day was the only way to prevent Germany becoming worlds first and sole
nuclear power.

It is just possible that a small amount of captured German fissile material
was used against Japan.

Not a small amount ,the enriched uran production spike that you can see in June
45,is solely due German stocks.

Situation of Manhattan Project in April was totally hopeless,they could build
an Uran bomb but there was no Uran for that and it was impossible to produce
enough Uran till bomb deadline,on other hand they had enough plutonium for a
pluto bomb but they were unable to design an igniter for that.
So they had basically an Uran bomb without uran and a plutonium bomb without
igniter !.
Their worst nighmare became a reality in the spring of 45 .
But everything changed almost overnight with occupation of Germany and the
arrival of U-234

This is pure fantasy.

No only the least known fact,if u-234 completed her voyage, Japan would become
worlds second nuclear power not US.

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
This is pure fantasy.

Why Eisenhover in his book "Crusade in Europa" stated that if the
occupation of
Germany delayed only by a couple of months,mankind would have faced its
biggest disaster.
Dont forget Germany was practically defeated in 1942

Not at all! In 1942 the tide was just beginning to turn against Germany. Far
from 'practcally defeated'

and in 1945 Wehrmacht
could find only kids and senior citizens to fill its ranks.
So how could such badly defeated country present such a gigantic danger
if
allies were late only by a couple of months?.
Answer was Third Reichs S-weapons program which included nuclear weapons.

Your problem seems to be that you cannot distinguish between plans and
realities. We all know about all the wonderful weapons that the different
branches of the Third Reich had *planned*.

In reality, they struggled. This was the regime that never launched an
aircraft carrier, and never built a convincing four-engined bomber. Whose
leader fiddled away the days while his empire collapsed, sketching designs
for post-war architectural projects.

It was more excusable for Eisenhower to proceed on worst-case assumptions
about the German nuclear programme in 1944 than it is for you to believe it
60 years later, when 60 years of research have failed to come up with any
evidence at all for the things you are saying.

With exception of SS own nuclear program Anglo management was aware of
every
development in third reich,including the achivements of von
Ardenne/Houtermanns
and Diebner teams.
So they with exception of SS work had an excellent picture of German
research
and they concluded that the Germans were two years ahead of Manhattan
Project
and the gap was was widening.
So D-Day was the only way to prevent Germany becoming worlds first and
sole
nuclear power.

It is just possible that a small amount of captured German fissile
material
was used against Japan.

Not a small amount ,the enriched uran production spike that you can see in
June
45,is solely due German stocks.

Situation of Manhattan Project in April was totally hopeless,they could
build
an Uran bomb but there was no Uran for that and it was impossible to
produce
enough Uran till bomb deadline,on other hand they had enough plutonium for
a
pluto bomb but they were unable to design an igniter for that.
So they had basically an Uran bomb without uran and a plutonium bomb
without
igniter !.

What is an igniter?

Their worst nighmare became a reality in the spring of 45 .
But everything changed almost overnight with occupation of Germany and the
arrival of U-234

This is pure fantasy.

No only the least known fact,if u-234 completed her voyage, Japan would
become
worlds second nuclear power not US.

How would they have done that without the know-how they and the Nazis
lacked? Are we to assume that both the Japanese and the Germans possessed
the ability to make an 'igniter' (whatever that is) and yet the Americans
did not?

Denyav, believe me, I like a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone. But
where is your actual evidence for these beliefs?

And please don't say it depends on secret papers which only you or a man you
met in a pub have access to!

John

(Dav1936531) wrote in message ...
From: (Denyav)


Nuclear tipped ICBMs are not very suitable weapons aganist terrorists, but
they are excellent weapons to deter countries that use terrorists as proxies.
The recipients of Putins televised message is without any doubt are Anglos who
use Al-Queda and other so called islamic terrorists as proxies to realize their
domestic and foreign policy goals.

Putins message is only a lightly disguised way of saying to US "Stop Al-Queda
terrorism inside Russia,or else".

If they are really serious,I am pretty sure that so called islamic terrorism
will take a vacation in Russia.

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.

Depends on your perspective. How stupid was it for the US to ally
themselves with the Mujehedin against a moderate and secular Afghan
government simply because that government had strong Soviet ties?
Anybody who viewed that conflict from the Soviet perspective is
excused for thinking that the US is capable of such a strange
alliance. At the same time that the US fought Islamic fundamentalism
in Iran they were supporting it in Afghanistan.

Do you think the great "sovietologist" Condoleeza Rice is living
completely in the here and now?


Maybe you didn't see the news of the 9-11 attacks. We are looking to kill Osama
bin Laden. Al-Qaeda and it affiliated groups are as much the enemies of the US
as they are the enemies of Russia. We have a common enemy and should cooperate
in its destruction.

I am appalled that our (the US) state department is apparently so far behind
the learning curve that it thinks negotiations with terrorists are some type of
acceptable solution.
Dave