A couple SSA 2020 convention presentations online...

As someone who spent their youth engaged in the parachute arts I don't think a practice jump is going to help. Tandem ground school and jump experience is useless, accelerated freefall is better but 99% of it is irrelevant. They are training people to be skydivers, not bailout survivors. Find someone that once jumped lots and now flies sailplanes and have them teach you.. Or a rigger, they have an idea of what our community needs to know. Which at its simplest is:
Look for the handle, reach for the handle, pull the handle. And as Dave said in the video consider a static line, if you do use a static line have the same mindset - Look, Reach, Pull. Have a goal of being faster than the static line. You won't be, but you'll survive if you forgot to clip it on.

On 2/28/2020 9:37 AM, wrote:

As someone who spent their youth engaged in the parachute arts I don't
think a practice jump is going to help.

Chiming in here in the BTDT sense of things, I didn't think (or find) the
absence of anything but "the usual adolescent reading about aviation stuff
like WW-II 'adventures'", eventually followed by soaring-specific 'similar
crud'...and associated pondering...to be a handicap in any perceived sense of
things when - in a galaxy long ago and far, far, away, I put whatever
mentally-acquired preparatory skills I'd gained to firsthand use. It did seem
more than a tad unfortunate for the glider, though.

To the point, "What Gregg sez," pretty much covers the critical basics, IMO,
i.e.:
snip... Which at its simplest is: Look for the handle, reach for
the handle, pull the handle.
Everything else is gravy and 'fluff.' The only thing I'd'a maybe changed in
hindsight woulda been swapping the glider's landing spot(on the airport) and
mine (in the adjacent county dump); woulda saved everyone time! (You can't
make this stuff up!)

Bob W.

P.S. My only 'injuries' were beautiful multi-hued harness bruises from the
'chute's opening. Kids, tight is good!

Static line...Â* Don't forget to disconnect it before getting out after a
normal landing... :-D

We have a Master Rigger who comes to Moriarty each spring and gives a
parachute ground school.Â* He gives a lecture first, then hanging harness
training in the hangar, finally everyone gets a chance to learn to
collapse a canopy in high winds (it's Moriart in the spring!).Â* To do
that, the student dons the harness which is tied by a rope to the bumper
of a truck.Â* Then the canopy is released into the wind.

Collapsing a canopy in the wind is trivial if you know the technique.Â*
Simply grab ONE suspension line and start pulling it in towards
yourself.Â* The canopy will collapse very quickly.Â* What's sobering is
when someone forgets that simple trick and is tossed about like a sack
of meat until a helper collapses the canopy for him.Â* Unrestrained and
without help, that person would go on a long and possibly fatal ride.


On 2/28/2020 9:37 AM, wrote:
As someone who spent their youth engaged in the parachute arts I don't think a practice jump is going to help. Tandem ground school and jump experience is useless, accelerated freefall is better but 99% of it is irrelevant. They are training people to be skydivers, not bailout survivors. Find someone that once jumped lots and now flies sailplanes and have them teach you. Or a rigger, they have an idea of what our community needs to know. Which at its simplest is:
Look for the handle, reach for the handle, pull the handle. And as Dave said in the video consider a static line, if you do use a static line have the same mindset - Look, Reach, Pull. Have a goal of being faster than the static line. You won't be, but you'll survive if you forgot to clip it on.

--
Dan, 5J

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 10:26:25 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Static line...Â* Don't forget to disconnect it before getting out after a
normal landing... :-D

We have a Master Rigger who comes to Moriarty each spring and gives a
parachute ground school.Â* He gives a lecture first, then hanging harness
training in the hangar, finally everyone gets a chance to learn to
collapse a canopy in high winds (it's Moriart in the spring!).Â* To do
that, the student dons the harness which is tied by a rope to the bumper
of a truck.Â* Then the canopy is released into the wind.

Collapsing a canopy in the wind is trivial if you know the technique.Â*
Simply grab ONE suspension line and start pulling it in towards
yourself.Â* The canopy will collapse very quickly.Â* What's sobering is
when someone forgets that simple trick and is tossed about like a sack
of meat until a helper collapses the canopy for him.Â* Unrestrained and
without help, that person would go on a long and possibly fatal ride.


On 2/28/2020 9:37 AM, wrote:
As someone who spent their youth engaged in the parachute arts I don't think a practice jump is going to help. Tandem ground school and jump experience is useless, accelerated freefall is better but 99% of it is irrelevant. They are training people to be skydivers, not bailout survivors. Find someone that once jumped lots and now flies sailplanes and have them teach you. Or a rigger, they have an idea of what our community needs to know. Which at its simplest is:
Look for the handle, reach for the handle, pull the handle. And as Dave said in the video consider a static line, if you do use a static line have the same mindset - Look, Reach, Pull. Have a goal of being faster than the static line. You won't be, but you'll survive if you forgot to clip it on.

It has been discussed on RAS before, but who manufactures square ram air style bail out chutes for gliders?

I cannot remember the manufacturer's name. But one in particular had comfortable backpack style ram air chutes that did not require a jump certification.

Thanks for any leads.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 3:42:54 PM UTC-5, Mike N. wrote:
It has been discussed on RAS before, but who manufactures square ram air style bail out chutes for gliders?

I cannot remember the manufacturer's name. But one in particular had comfortable backpack style ram air chutes that did not require a jump certification.

Thanks for any leads.

https://rigginginnovations.com/skydi...ency-parachute

Alot of info here so far, Ill just say this. Years ago a good friend of mine who owned a Pik 20, and was a master jumper, was selling his pik. He was a big guy, my size 230 6'2" he wore a square reserve and as he put it "its the largest square reserve I could buy". He sold it to me as my chute was way too small and rather old. Several of us went to a local jump school and did the ground school and a static line jump. I opted for the 5K jump so I could have time under canopy to steer and judge glides ect. I felt it was invaluable experience and am glad I did it.

I have not jumped since but still have one important memory. When they were talking about if the chute doesnt open, then pull the emergency handle. As I let go of the strut on the 182 and arched I was amazed how fast the plane got small and almost simultaneously I thought something should have been happening and a second after I was looking for the handle and then it happened. The chute opened! Yea! They had one way radios and although the jump master on the ground was directing my flight path to the ground, he would have had me overshoot the target, so I ignored him alittle and delayed my turn onto final by a few seconds and landed on the spot. I went down to one knee so flare timing was alittle late but all in all a very good experience.

This is what I wear:
https://rigginginnovations.com/skydi...ency-parachute

I used it in my prior LAK-17a and now in my Stemme.

On 2/28/2020 1:42 PM, Mike N. wrote:
It has been discussed on RAS before, but who manufactures square ram air style bail out chutes for gliders?

I cannot remember the manufacturer's name. But one in particular had comfortable backpack style ram air chutes that did not require a jump certification.

Thanks for any leads.

--
Dan, 5J