GP 15 Jeta

On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

rim shot

Well played.

T8

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

I am so happy I did not order one! It was tempting to get such a light motor glider. After so many years of promises I am not sure there is hope for this glider at all. I feel sorry for the people who put money down. Shame on the manufacturer. I don't know what the guy is thinking, this sounds like a ponzi scheme.

On 6/24/20 7:18 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

I am so happy I did not order one! It was tempting to get such a light motor glider. After so many years of promises I am not sure there is hope for this glider at all. I feel sorry for the people who put money down. Shame on the manufacturer. I don't know what the guy is thinking, this sounds like a ponzi scheme.


Yep. Small, light weight, superlative performance, outstanding battery
run times, modest pricing for a motorglider. Almost sounded too good to
be true.

I feel sorry for people who put money down, but back in the old days,
they were offering big discounts for people to pay up front for the
glider. Sad to see people sell their old gliders to help pay for the
new one, then sit around for years for the new one that never seems to
show up.

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/24/20 7:18 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

I am so happy I did not order one! It was tempting to get such a light motor glider. After so many years of promises I am not sure there is hope for this glider at all. I feel sorry for the people who put money down. Shame on the manufacturer. I don't know what the guy is thinking, this sounds like a ponzi scheme.


Yep. Small, light weight, superlative performance, outstanding battery
run times, modest pricing for a motorglider. Almost sounded too good to
be true.

I feel sorry for people who put money down, but back in the old days,
they were offering big discounts for people to pay up front for the
glider. Sad to see people sell their old gliders to help pay for the
new one, then sit around for years for the new one that never seems to
show up.

Yes, there are people who paid full price years ago, and are still waiting to see their gliders. All that money is long gone, and unless new money shows up, the company will have a difficult time to find resources to produce anything. I was very interested in the glider, until they offered jumping the line with full price purchase. That was a red flag, right there! They say now, that they lost workerks. I can bet it was not due to COVID-19. Credit tightening is also happening in Poland, as it is in US, so I am not sure how they will find money to support their company. I wish them best, but I would not give them a dime, unless I see gliders rolling off the assembly line, and delivered in usable condition. No doubt, they have strong engineering minds, but that is probably where their skills end, unfortunately.

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-7, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/24/20 7:18 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

I am so happy I did not order one! It was tempting to get such a light motor glider. After so many years of promises I am not sure there is hope for this glider at all. I feel sorry for the people who put money down. Shame on the manufacturer. I don't know what the guy is thinking, this sounds like a ponzi scheme.


Yep. Small, light weight, superlative performance, outstanding battery
run times, modest pricing for a motorglider. Almost sounded too good to
be true.

I feel sorry for people who put money down, but back in the old days,
they were offering big discounts for people to pay up front for the
glider. Sad to see people sell their old gliders to help pay for the
new one, then sit around for years for the new one that never seems to
show up.

Yes, there are people who paid full price years ago, and are still waiting to see their gliders. All that money is long gone, and unless new money shows up, the company will have a difficult time to find resources to produce anything. I was very interested in the glider, until they offered jumping the line with full price purchase. That was a red flag, right there! They say now, that they lost workerks. I can bet it was not due to COVID-19. Credit tightening is also happening in Poland, as it is in US, so I am not sure how they will find money to support their company. I wish them best, but I would not give them a dime, unless I see gliders rolling off the assembly line, and delivered in usable condition. No doubt, they have strong engineering minds, but that is probably where their skills end, unfortunately.

I found this photo of the GP-15 on GP Glider's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/gpgliders/p...22297261160831
It clearly shows the glider's registration number, OM-M901. A search for that registration yielded this:
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1253786
Obviously this is a totally different aircraft. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?

Tom

Obviously this is a totally different aircraft. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?


The Viper picture is dated 2010, perhaps the number got recycled.

Where does one actually lookup the history for that registration?

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 7:52:44 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Obviously this is a totally different aircraft. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?


The Viper picture is dated 2010, perhaps the number got recycled.

Where does one actually lookup the history for that registration?

I don't think so; OM-M9xx is the registration series used by Viper Aircraft. OM-M901 was displayed recently at an exposition:
https://www.tomarkaero.com/en/34-pre...ratislava.html

Tom

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 7:47:19 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-7, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/24/20 7:18 PM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 6/23/20 9:23 AM, Turkey Vulture wrote:

Some owner? There's only been one delivered, and he's up to his
eyeballs trying to get the thing flying.

Do tell, it was delivered unflyable??!!


To be fair, it has flown once. It got air-freighted to the convention
to suck in new orders

I am so happy I did not order one! It was tempting to get such a light motor glider. After so many years of promises I am not sure there is hope for this glider at all. I feel sorry for the people who put money down. Shame on the manufacturer. I don't know what the guy is thinking, this sounds like a ponzi scheme.


Yep. Small, light weight, superlative performance, outstanding battery
run times, modest pricing for a motorglider. Almost sounded too good to
be true.

I feel sorry for people who put money down, but back in the old days,
they were offering big discounts for people to pay up front for the
glider. Sad to see people sell their old gliders to help pay for the
new one, then sit around for years for the new one that never seems to
show up.

Yes, there are people who paid full price years ago, and are still waiting to see their gliders. All that money is long gone, and unless new money shows up, the company will have a difficult time to find resources to produce anything. I was very interested in the glider, until they offered jumping the line with full price purchase. That was a red flag, right there! They say now, that they lost workerks. I can bet it was not due to COVID-19. Credit tightening is also happening in Poland, as it is in US, so I am not sure how they will find money to support their company. I wish them best, but I would not give them a dime, unless I see gliders rolling off the assembly line, and delivered in usable condition. No doubt, they have strong engineering minds, but that is probably where their skills end, unfortunately.

I found this photo of the GP-15 on GP Glider's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/gpgliders/p...22297261160831
It clearly shows the glider's registration number, OM-M901. A search for that registration yielded this:
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1253786
Obviously this is a totally different aircraft. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?

Tom

BTW, OM is the prefix for Slovakia, not Poland (which is SP).

2G wrote on 6/27/2020 7:47 AM:
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I found this photo of the GP-15 on GP Glider's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/gpgliders/p...22297261160831
It clearly shows the glider's registration number, OM-M901. A search for that registration yielded this:
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1253786
Obviously this is a totally different aircraft. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?

Tom

I queried the US dealer (Tom Holloran), and the factory replied OM-M901 was
available when they needed a registration number, it was used for the glider while
it was in Poland, and they deregistered the glider when it was shipped to the US,
so the number is now available again. The US owner confirms he received a
deregistration document, and the glider is now registered in the US.

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- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
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