Where will the money come from...

"s.p.i." wrote in message
om...

I'm not saying carrier aviation has *no* advantage over land-based
aviation. In the near term there are some real advantages in
fact..


Such as?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"s.p.i." wrote in message
om...

I'm not saying carrier aviation has *no* advantage over land-based
aviation. In the near term there are some real advantages in
fact..


Such as?

Mobility. Concrete independent ... no basing agreements required with Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, Italy, you-name-it.. The fact that a CVBG offshore makes a
political statement that a wing of B-2's sitting in Whiteman cannot make.

R / John

"John Carrier" wrote in message
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Mobility.


Carrier aircraft are more mobile than land-based aircraft?



Concrete independent ... no basing agreements required with Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, Italy, you-name-it.. The fact that a CVBG offshore makes
a
political statement that a wing of B-2's sitting in Whiteman cannot make.


How are any of those advantages?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

"John Carrier" wrote in message
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Mobility.


Carrier aircraft are more mobile than land-based aircraft?

Where is Edwards AFB? Where is the USS John C. Stennis?
Where will both be 6 months from now?




Concrete independent ... no basing agreements required with Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, Italy, you-name-it.. The fact that a CVBG offshore
makes
a
political statement that a wing of B-2's sitting in Whiteman cannot
make.


How are any of those advantages?

Aircraft that you cannot use for political reasons are worse than useless.
They
have cost you, but are not returning on the investment. You honestly can't
see
the advantage of a CVBG off a hostile coast over a wing of B-2's in middle
America? Open your eyes. Even the Air Force doesn't try to make the
argument you are. They did before, but have come to their senses. CV
aviation will not replace shore based aviation, but it will not succumb to
it either.

Giz

"Giz" wrote in message
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Where is Edwards AFB?


California.



Where is the USS John C. Stennis?


Beats the hell outta me.



Where will both be 6 months from now?


Same answers.

I don't see what your questions have to do with the relative mobility of
carrier aircraft versus land-based aircraft.



Aircraft that you cannot use for political reasons are worse than useless.
They have cost you, but are not returning on the investment.


So we purchase carrier aircraft for political purposes and land-based
aircraft for combat purposes?



You honestly can't see the advantage of a CVBG off a hostile coast over a
wing of B-2's in middle America?


No, why don't you explain it to me?



Open your eyes. Even the Air Force doesn't try to make the
argument you are. They did before, but have come to their senses. CV
aviation will not replace shore based aviation, but it will not succumb to
it either.


The argument I'm making? I thought I was just asking a few questions.

roncachamp- Where is Edwards AFB?

California.



Where is the USS John C. Stennis?


Beats the hell outta me.



Where will both be 6 months from now?
BRBR


bing bing, we have a winner...and he doesn't even know it....


I don't see what your questions have to do with the relative mobility of
carrier aircraft versus land-based aircraft. BRBR


ummmmm vulnerability??
Predictabiulity?
Ability to make a US 'statement'?

I know having a bunch of SAC weenies dressing up nice with their scarfs and new
leather jackets and all and standing next to their B-2s makes my eyes water but
the people in Liberia don't really GAS...

P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Steven- Carrier aircraft are more mobile than land-based aircraft? BRBR

Nope but the place they land sure is...

I think ya need to spend some time in a USN airwing and a USAF ariwing...like I
have and the 'answers' such seem easy.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Nope but the place they land sure is...


So what?



I think ya need to spend some time in a USN airwing and a USAF
ariwing...like I
have and the 'answers' such seem easy.


Well, then, perhaps you could answer some of the question I've asked in this
discussion. Nobody else seems able to.

Nope but the place they land sure is...


So what?
BRBR

You don't really need to ask this, do you??

Well, then, perhaps you could answer some of the question I've asked in this
discussion. Nobody else seems able to. BRBR

Adios MF....another clueless civilian...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer