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Old June 10th 21, 03:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Winch demonstration/training at home gliderport

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 4:39:23 PM UTC-4, SGS N2062T wrote:
would your winch fit on a flatbed car trailer?

I mean, I have done dumber things to get a ride...


Hauling a winch on a flat-bed trailer is always an option but I assume that it is a costly endeavor. Might be easier to put the K21 into a trailer and take it to a place that is running a winch. You could pay out only the amount of line equivalent to your line run at your home field and see what it does for you.
Also, I took a look at the field using Google-Earth. To extend the line run into the field to the north - as mentioned by Kirk - would require the closure of a road. If that's that an option, great. The winch would then be placed very close to I-70. Not ideal but doable. What are your prevailing winds on that field? How many days a year would you really launch to the north? All these things would have to be analyzed before making the decision to go for a winch.

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Old June 10th 21, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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Default Winch demonstration/training at home gliderport

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:40:01 -0700, AS wrote:

What are your
prevailing winds on that field? How many days a year would you really
launch to the north? All these things would have to be analyzed before
making the decision to go for a winch.

Good points. I'd add a couple more, from the way my club normally
operates.

1) the rule of thumb says that generally launch height is 1/3 the
distance between launch start point and where the winch is placed on our
main run (04/22 with 22 being the prevailing wind direction).
We normally place out winch (a Skylaunch with a truck's V8 running on LPG)
4000 ft from the winch) and typically launch to 1400-1600 ft regardless
of wind speed, though we can hit 2800ft in a strongish wind with a good
speed gradient.

2) despite having a wide grass main run (475ft wide) we typically place
the launch point 500 ft from the downwind boundary so landing gliders can
stop before or just after they reach the launch point. Yes, this adds to
the required runway length, but it makes the launch rate a lot faster
since theres no wait while the landed glider is moved back out of the
danger zone for failed launches.

3) Our other run (16/320, 2800 ft x 300ft) is shorter and narrower with
no landing area behind the launch point. The result is a very low launch
rate because almost every landing stops well past the launch point, so
launching stops while a golf buggy gets the glider and puts it on the
back of the launch queue. Launches on it seldom exceed 900 ft.

HTH


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