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Old August 27th 04, 03:11 PM
Pechs1
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Great jet. Sorry to see it go. BRBR

Guess that depends on your point of view. I am glad it's gone. (1000+ hours in
it BTW, never liked it around the boat, hard to maintain, tough to fly in
general, wierd systems, etc.)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
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Old August 27th 04, 03:16 PM
Tony Volk
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I heard it was easier to fly around the boat than the Phantom, was that
true for you? And I would've supposed that the systems would've been better
than the Phantoms too (although not as nice as the Viper- did you fly in an
aggressor squadron or exchange?). Cheers,

Tony

Guess that depends on your point of view. I am glad it's gone. (1000+

hours in
it BTW, never liked it around the boat, hard to maintain, tough to fly in
general, wierd systems, etc.)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye

Phlyer


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Old August 27th 04, 09:07 PM
John Carrier
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I heard it was easier to fly around the boat than the Phantom, was that
true for you? And I would've supposed that the systems would've been
better
than the Phantoms too (although not as nice as the Viper- did you fly in
an
aggressor squadron or exchange?). Cheers,


I thought so. But then I always felt that the Phantom was a pretty mediocre
airframe wrapped around some fabulous engines. It was stable and remarkably
forgiving, but at it's high approach speed it was possible to get into
trouble when correcting from a high or countercorrecting from a low (then
again that can be said for any jet). The F-14 needed flying, but it had
tons of lift, tons of fuel and a 10% slower approach speed ... hard to hit
the ramp IMO. I didn't think either aircraft was particularly
unforgiving/difficult around the ship.

Landing mishap statistics favor the F-14. I've always felt that rather than
argue "my airplane is harder to fly than your airplane" its easier to look
at the stats. Unforgiving airplanes tend to generate high mishap rates and
lots of memorial services.

R / John


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Old August 27th 04, 09:36 PM
Pechs1
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Tony- I heard it was easier to fly around the boat than the Phantom, was that
true for you? BRBR

It wasn't true for anybody that flew both around the boat. Much less stable
nose in terms of holding on speed AOA, wallowed when turning, no
ARI(aileron-rudder interconnect), turned with spoilers, which means it went
down when you turned. I think the only good thing is that it had a lot more
gas. Systems to help ya get aboard was similar to the F-4, Spn41/2, DME, no
hud. Autothrottle sucked because being turbofans. DLC was nice.

I flew the F-16N, in VF-126(XO/CO)
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
 




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