Stick and Rudder's 'Safety plane'

"C J Campbell" wrote:

The Ercoupe was the only airplane where all of the ideas in "Stick and
Rudder" were implemented. The rudderless Ercoupe was not a complete success;
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And your point is what....
You like Cezznas?

Me too.
The Citations are lovely this time of year.

P.S.
You and I traveled the Ercoupe road last December.
Others can look it all up in google, if interested.


Barnyard BOb -- there are no COMPLETE successes

"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
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| P.S.
| You and I traveled the Ercoupe road last December.
| Others can look it all up in google, if interested.

I tried looking that thread up myself, but I couldn't find it.

I wonder what the Ercoupe would be like today if development had continued?
I never bought the argument that the Ercoupe was "too easy to fly," there
being no such thing.

Alon also made a float-equipped Ercoupe, but I don't know if any of these
planes still exist, nor do I know how the floats affected their useful load,
how they taxied, etc. I would love to see one.

Hi Mr. C.J. Campbell:

Come by row 16 at Arlington. I'll give you all the straight scoop
on Ercoupes.

The one float equipped Ercoupe lost an aileron due to flutter during spin
testing.
The pilot bailed out and thus ended the float equipped Ercoupe.

Yes indeed you can stall an Ercoupe, yes indeed you can develop a dangerous
sink rate. Yes indeed they come over the fence quite a bit faster than other
planes of similar gross weight.

Yes indeed they can handle a cross wind component that leaves many other
planes on the ground,
Yes indeed they can cruise at 105-115 mph for 4 hours. Yes indeed they are a
fun responsive airplane
to fly. Yes indeed there are a lot of Ercoupe nuts around. G

There are some disadvantages to Ercoupes, however this is true of any of the
comparable planes
of the era.

By the way, there are 3 flavors of Ercoupe. The 2 control version where the
rudders are connected
to a mixer along with the ailerons and no pedals are installed. Next is one
with rudder pedals. The nose
wheel however is still connected to the control wheel. Last is a
conventional 3 control airplane. I'm sure
we'll have an example of all 3 versions at AWO again this year.

I feel that the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. The plum is it's
x-wind characteristics.
I hardly ever worry about the wind sock. I just crab and land--a piece of
cake.

I sure would have to change my technique if I went back to my old Champ. G

I'm the region 3 director of the Ercoupe Owners Club and WX allowing will be
at Arlington row 16 Wednesday and will camp all week.

Please stop by and we'll bore you to tears with Ercoupe facts and factoids.

Cheers:

Paul Anton
NC2273H---- yellow wing, blue fuselage 0-200 equipped 415D

"Paul" wrote...
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Please stop by and we'll bore you to tears with Ercoupe facts and
factoids.

But they don't come with bigger cockpits and engines...

"Paul" wrote in message
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| Hi Mr. C.J. Campbell:
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| Come by row 16 at Arlington. I'll give you all the straight scoop
| on Ercoupes.
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Looking forward to it.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:47:23 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:


"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
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| P.S.
| You and I traveled the Ercoupe road last December.
| Others can look it all up in google, if interested.

I tried looking that thread up myself, but I couldn't find it.
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The thread was "Luscombe Spin Characteristics"
Here's a sample without me in it.....


On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:42:34 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:


"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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Kevin Horton writes:


Ha, ha, ha. Only someone with NO knowledge of Coupe design could
write this. Actually, Coupes can handle considerably greater
crosswind landings than most other planes.
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True, but only because the Ercoupe is designed to be landed almost sideways.

I like the Ercoupe, even though it did not quite live up to its promise of
being stall/spin proof -- the only thing it proved was the ingenuity of
pilots in figuring out ways to stall/spin a spin-proof airplane.

Amazingly, the Ercoupe will even ground loop -- historically about three
times as often as a Cessna 150. What kind of bonehead would ground loop an
Ercoupe? It has to be right after the pilot says "Hey, you can land these
things in any crosswind. Watch this!"