Aircraft Spruce and Jim Irwin

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of glitches in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.



You've never accidentally rejected a card or had a personal card mistakenly
rejected? I can think of at least 3 times in my life (once at a gas pump
last weekend) when a viable card has been rejected.

KB

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:06:03 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.



You've never accidentally rejected a card or had a personal card mistakenly
rejected? I can think of at least 3 times in my life (once at a gas pump
last weekend) when a viable card has been rejected.

Your statement was that credit cards get randomly rejected at times,
and my reply was a nice way to say "bull****". If the reader is dirty
or the card has been demagnetized, it won't work. If you call or
punch a number in, they will not get randomly rejected. If the card
was good (as it appeared in this instance) the operator made a
mistake.

The cash register card readers at the local Meijers store constantly reject
my card, even after several swipes... While the card readers in their gas
pumps out front cheerfully accept the card every time, without fail... The
trick I learned from one of the cashiers is to fold a thin plastic
merchandise bag over the card and swipe it through the reader slot - you
would expect it to fail to read through a layer of plastic - but it works
like a champ..
Denny

"Stu Gotts" wrote in
Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of
glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the
credit
card company.

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message ...

Your statement was that credit cards get randomly rejected at times,
and my reply was a nice way to say "bull****". If the reader is dirty
or the card has been demagnetized, it won't work. If you call or
punch a number in, they will not get randomly rejected. If the card
was good (as it appeared in this instance) the operator made a
mistake.

Random is probably a bad word, hardly anything is trully random.
But cards on an uncompromiesed, good standing account do get
declined for stupid assed security reasons that are unrelated to the
current transaction.

I don't think that anybody else is referring to card readers being unable to
read the card as "rejecting the transaction. What people are talking about
is when the credit card company rejects the transaction based on some arcane
formula designed to prevent unauthorized misuse.

Mike
MU-2


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:06:03 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of
glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the
credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.



You've never accidentally rejected a card or had a personal card
mistakenly
rejected? I can think of at least 3 times in my life (once at a gas pump
last weekend) when a viable card has been rejected.

Your statement was that credit cards get randomly rejected at times,
and my reply was a nice way to say "bull****". If the reader is dirty
or the card has been demagnetized, it won't work. If you call or
punch a number in, they will not get randomly rejected. If the card
was good (as it appeared in this instance) the operator made a
mistake.

No, but if you took the time to read the original (and earlier)
message(s), the poster said the card was rejected, then he made the
purchase from another vendor with the same card a few minutes later.
That morphed into how this card could have actually been rejected, and
not some theoretical, in this instance "arcane formula designed to
prevent unauthorized misuse" (I guess as opposed to authorized misuse,
like our wives do).



On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:23:08 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

I don't think that anybody else is referring to card readers being unable to
read the card as "rejecting the transaction. What people are talking about
is when the credit card company rejects the transaction based on some arcane
formula designed to prevent unauthorized misuse.

Mike
MU-2


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:06:03 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of
glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the
credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.



You've never accidentally rejected a card or had a personal card
mistakenly
rejected? I can think of at least 3 times in my life (once at a gas pump
last weekend) when a viable card has been rejected.

Your statement was that credit cards get randomly rejected at times,
and my reply was a nice way to say "bull****". If the reader is dirty
or the card has been demagnetized, it won't work. If you call or
punch a number in, they will not get randomly rejected. If the card
was good (as it appeared in this instance) the operator made a
mistake.

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message ...
No, but if you took the time to read the original (and earlier)
message(s), the poster said the card was rejected, then he made the
purchase from another vendor with the same card a few minutes later.

Beleive me it happens.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
...

"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
...
No, but if you took the time to read the original (and earlier)
message(s), the poster said the card was rejected, then he made the
purchase from another vendor with the same card a few minutes later.

Beleive me it happens.

Guys, what was wrong with the transaction was explained by ACS. Go back a
few posts.

Can't we all just get along?

"Kyle Boatright" wrote:


"Stu Gotts" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:03:07 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

It ain't that hard to get Jim Irwin on the phone. You should try it
instead of airing dirty laundry in this forum. Especially since credit
cards
get randomly rejected from time to time, based on any number of glitches
in
the systems that span the distance between the card reader and the credit
card company.

That's news to me, and yes, I accept credit cards in my business
daily! Maybe Mrs. Hitler made a mistake so an authorization wasn't
possible.



You've never accidentally rejected a card or had a personal card mistakenly
rejected? I can think of at least 3 times in my life (once at a gas pump
last weekend) when a viable card has been rejected.

KB

For me, it was last Monday. Free pass to the movies after it declined
one credit card (that was current) and two debit cards (on accounts
with adequate balances) and the theater manager's card. Unfortunately,
the concession stand accepted them, so no free food.
--
Alex
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