First fairly long XC since ownership.

"David Megginson" wrote in message
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"Dave" writes:

You guys are so lucky. It costs the equivalent of $6.15 per gallon
for fuel in England and the cheapest landing fee I have paid on top
of that was $12 and they are often much higher with facilities that
you would consider as condemned.

Is that USD 6.50 per U.S. gallon or USD 6.50 per Imperial gallon?


Per US Gallon basically $1.62 per litre, and at an exchange rate of about £1
= £1.69 and 4 litres to a US gallon. Looking at it per imperial
gallon.......... well you just want to cry.

I would love it we could STC the petrol engines out and replace them with
diesels at $0.40 per litre

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

You guys are so lucky.

We certainly are in that regard. AOPA periodically informs us of the
situation
you guys face there and in Europe and works very hard to keep it from
happening
here.

80% of the amount we pay is taxation

Dave wrote:
: We certainly are in that regard. AOPA periodically informs us of the
: situation
: you guys face there and in Europe and works very hard to keep it from
: happening
: here.
:
: 80% of the amount we pay is taxation

As unpopular (and thus practically impossible) to do here,
gasoline *should* be taxed much more than it is. Of course, this money
should go to research for alternate fuels, etc, and not blown in a general
fund for more B.S. spending.

The aerodiesels seems to be promising. Fuel burn, power/weight
improvements, and turbocharging make them look great for performance. In
the US where 100LL and Jet-A are roughly the same price, running
auto-diesel would as good of a cost-savings as autogas STCs. Also,
compression ignition engines are more robust to fuels, so I'd imagine less
concern about fuel quality than with autogas I can imagine they'll be
*really* great across the pond for you guys by the liter, er, litre...

-Cory


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As unpopular (and thus practically impossible) to do here,
gasoline *should* be taxed much more than it is. Of course, this money
should go to research for alternate fuels, etc, and not blown in a general
fund for more B.S. spending.

You are one of the very few that think this way (I'm another). MY "plan", that
also is impossible to implement, is to place an additional tax of purhaps $.05
per year for the next 10 years. This gives the gas guzzler owners and
manuyfacturers time to recover. Then use the moneys to develop the tar sands
in the west.

I heard a talk by Dixie Ray Lee ( or was that Dixie Lee Ray) who said that if
we could stand off and look at our world - past, present, and future. One of
the things that we would say about the present is "This is the 100 years that
we used fossil fuels for energy". It's been about 100 years, so she was a
little off on the timing but the idea is still there.

Chuck

"Dave" writes:

Per US Gallon basically $1.62 per litre, and at an exchange rate of
about £1 = £1.69 and 4 litres to a US gallon. Looking at it per
imperial gallon.......... well you just want to cry.

GBP 1.00/liter sounds pretty brutal -- my sympathies. I can see why
something like a USD 40K diesel conversion might be tempting, though
even then, it would take a while to make up the extra cost. In
Canada, we're paying half that, and I know that it can get even lower
at some US airports, so the cost of a diesel conversion is much harder
to justify.


All the best,


David

The pilot's side door. I closed and locked it myself, and double checked
it.
Wayne


Wait, which door? I'm not familiar with the 175, but the standard Cessna
locking drill would be to reach across the plane (from whichever side
you're standing on) and latch the far door with the lever (which makes
it impossible to open from outside) then close and lock the door on your
side.

You said your girlfriend found it... Is it possible that the the door
you didn't lock just didn't get latched? Have you ever locked that side
from outside?

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

Seemed to be a nice bunch to me too. I didn't say anything untrue.
Something happened, and it happened there. My words were beware of KTTA, not
the FBO necessarily, but someone broke the door, just glad nothing is
missing.
Wayne
"Henry Bibb" wrote in message
ink.net...
Wayne,

For what it's worth, I have flown out of KTTA fairly often, as a
transient,
have several friends based there, and belong to a flying club also based
there.
To my knowledge nothing of this sort has ever happened there before.
I wish you had reported it to the FBO before conducting a public character
assassination in this way.

Henry Bibb


"Wayne" wrote in message
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(snip)
sitting right there), it kind of makes me wonder. Beware of KTTA in
Sanford
NC. Either they break your stuff, or they don't notice when others do.

Wayne

I wouldn't care if he read it, I said nothing untrue, I did speculate
and that's all it was. Only facts are that my lock was broken and the door
was open. If was was walking by as I am sure they had to some time during
the day, and saw an open door, I would have at least closed it.
Wayne


"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
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I don't have any proof that they did it but with nothing missing
(Garmin 196
sitting right there), it kind of makes me wonder. Beware of KTTA in
Sanford
NC. Either they break your stuff, or they don't notice when others do.

Hi Wayne

My plane ws broken ito earlier this year - my Garmin 196 was sitting right
there and all they took was the aircraft documents.
They also broke into 6 other aircraft on the field- one had items taken
and five didn't.
It seems to me that you are jumping to some pretty big conclusions in
assuming that the line guy did it.
As we are dealing purely with speculation, my speculation is that he
didn't. Also, I hope for your benefit that he isn't reading this thread.

--
Tony Roberts )
PP-ASEL
VFR-OTT - Night
Cessna 172H

Thanks, I'm glad too. It is a very nice airport, all new pavement,
friendly people. The last time I was there, in a car, I bought a sectional
and a few other things and they didn't have change so they gave me a free
sectional. I was back the next day and tried to pay but they wouldn't take
the money even then. Only takes one bad apple either working there on just
visiting to make everyone look bad. Next time I will take out the valuables
and leave it unlocked.
Wayne


"Maule Driver" wrote in message
. com...
Pretty far fetched scenario but a real ****er. Glad you didn't lose the
Garmin.

Brakes on perhaps and fuel truck out of service...

FWIW, For almost 7 years, I've left my Maule all over NC at various
airports. I've always left it unlocked with only a pair of DCs laying out
of sight in the back. Lots of overnights and weekends. Never had an
incident of any kind. I worry but that worry has been unfounded so far.

Try Siler City 5W8 for fuel. About 15 miles from TTA. Always some of the
cheapest around.

TTA is another gorgeous GA NC airport that has recently been expanded or
in
this case, built new to replace its former self. Ditto for KTDF, KEXX and
many other long, clean surfaced county airports. We're not in Jersey
anymore!

The FBO could have scared the would be theif away for that matter. There
was no wind, again the door was double checked, closed, and locked. Doesn't
matter now anyway, just glad the Garmin was there.

One of 3 things happened:
1. A thief broke into your plane.
2. The lock/latch mechanism broke and the wind opened the door
3. The door was never latched and the wind opened the door.
$2.80 plus 7% tax. I'm used to paying $2.10. That's 50% higher than I am
used to. That would be like you, used to paying $3.00 paying $4.50, again
50% higher. Was a shock, but not really a problem. I should have shopped
around I guess, maybe next time.
Wayne

Regarding the fuel prices. $2.80 isn't bad, at least not in the
midwest. Check out http://www.airnav.com for listing of fuel prices.

-Nathan