Airworthiness Cert Still Valid?

I just want to clarify:

The plane was not destroyed. For some reason, it got de-registered. It's
only been a paper chase. I'm not trying to minimize it, since I know that
logs are "just paper" but worth gold.

I was just seeing if this had happened to anyone else - having a new a/w
cert issued, and whether that created "obstacles" in the future.

Thanks again;
Carl


"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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OK; I posted a few months ago about how a plane I was interested in was
"de-registered" a short time after it was repossessed by the bank. (we've
already speculated on whether there was malicious intent or not, so let's
not go into HOW it got de-registered.)

Anyway, it went out of annual. We could not get a ferry permit to get it
to
my A&P for an annual/pre-buy until it was registered. So, the bank got it
re-registered after a 6 wk wait on the FAA.

However, now when I check the online registry, under "Airworthiness
Certification" it says "None."

I called the FAA, and the nice lady said that because the plane was
de-registered because of "destruction" (it wasn't), the a/w is now void.
She said that the FSDO has to issue a new airworthiness cert.

So, my question is: Since the plane still has the original a/w cert, will
that just be re-entered into the FAA database, or will the FSDO re-issue a
cert, WITH a new date?

Secondly, would YOU, as a future purchaser, see the 2004 a/w cert date on
a
1960's plane, and think that there was something not right about the deal?
Would you "buy" my story as related above?

Or is this just something that happens from time to time?

Thanks;
Carl
Ft Worth TX

"Carl Orton" wrote in message ...
I just want to clarify:

The plane was not destroyed. For some reason, it got de-registered. It's
only been a paper chase. I'm not trying to minimize it, since I know that
logs are "just paper" but worth gold.

That's the problem. Often the only way to get good information on a
prospective aircraft is to search FAA records. I've seen a lot of
logbooks that did not tell the whole story about accident related
repairs. According to the FAA paperwork, this aircraft was once
listed as destroyed. You're going to have to have some good
documentation to convince a prospective buyer of the true
circumstances. A smart buyer will be very suspicious about the
"destroyed" reference and will probably not just take your word for
it.

Would you buy a used car that had a history of being totaled or
salvaged? Would you take the seller's word for it that is was just a
paper snafu?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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(John Galban) wrote:

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
...
I just want to clarify:

The plane was not destroyed. For some reason, it got de-registered. It's
only been a paper chase. I'm not trying to minimize it, since I know that
logs are "just paper" but worth gold.

That's the problem. Often the only way to get good information on a
prospective aircraft is to search FAA records. I've seen a lot of
logbooks that did not tell the whole story about accident related
repairs. According to the FAA paperwork, this aircraft was once
listed as destroyed. You're going to have to have some good
documentation to convince a prospective buyer of the true
circumstances. A smart buyer will be very suspicious about the
"destroyed" reference and will probably not just take your word for
it.

Would you buy a used car that had a history of being totaled or
salvaged? Would you take the seller's word for it that is was just a
paper snafu?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

The best move -- only if you are truly interested in THIS plane -- is to
ge hold of an AI who specializes in this type of plane and do a THOROUGH
inspection for all compliances!

Actually, you should do this for ANY airplane purchase, as there are far
too many dogs out there waiting to run out from under the habgar and
bite you.

You should be able to negotiate a good price with the bank.

On an aside: it appears that the person from whom it was repossessed
deregistered the plane as one last salute to the bank. There is really
little YOU can do about this except negotiate a price well below "book
value."

"Carl Orton" wrote in message ...
I just want to clarify:

The plane was not destroyed. For some reason, it got de-registered. It's
only been a paper chase. I'm not trying to minimize it, since I know that
logs are "just paper" but worth gold.

I was just seeing if this had happened to anyone else - having a new a/w
cert issued, and whether that created "obstacles" in the future.


Hi Carl, with good documentation for the reason of a replacement
certificate, it wouldn't bother me. In fact my Aero Commander will get
a new one when we get ready to fly it. I bought it as a partially
stripped fuselage and when we finish the paperwork on the bill of
sales, we will have to indicate that it is non-airworthy as the
original one dissapeared back in the '80s when it was parked. I've got
a good friend that is a DAR and will help me through the process when
I get ready to do mine.

Criag C.

(Craig) wrote in message . com...
"Carl Orton" wrote in message ...
I just want to clarify:

The plane was not destroyed. For some reason, it got de-registered. It's
only been a paper chase. I'm not trying to minimize it, since I know that
logs are "just paper" but worth gold.

I was just seeing if this had happened to anyone else - having a new a/w
cert issued, and whether that created "obstacles" in the future.


The law says the airworthiness certificate is not in force if
the airplane is not airworthy. And it's not airworthy if it's out of
annual, or has a flat tire, or the logs aren't in order, and so on.
Having the paper certificate guarantees nothing.

Dan