Downloading Flying Music?

"sean trost" wrote in message
om...
Jay,
have you considered using an IPOD type device ? basically an mp3 player
married to a portable hard drive and holds very large amount of music.
and can be plumbed into the intercom.

as for downloading music. I used to be partial to Kazaa lite. but am
leaning towards napster again or Itunes. As these sites actually
support the music biz. and 99 cents per song aint bad.
all the best
Sean Trost

A buck per song is not bad? Are you nuts? That is as much or more than you
would pay for a factory made cd, even more, when you consider the cost of
the blank data disk.

The only fair thing to do is rip off the music industry as bad as you can,
for overcharging us for music all these years.
--
Jim in NC

A buck per song is not bad? Are you nuts? That is as much or more than you
would pay for a factory made cd, even more, when you consider the cost of
the blank data disk.

The only fair thing to do is rip off the music industry as bad as you can,
for overcharging us for music all these years.
--
Jim in NC

Sorry Jim, we live in a free market economy. If you don't want to buy because
the price is too high in your estimation, that's your choice. But you cannot
justify stealing because you think they charge too much. I suppose you would
only mark your products up 10% before selling, If you had anything someone else
would want. So if you don't like a price in the store I guess you would steal
that also. Or if you though they charged you too much last time you can steal
it this time. With irrational thinking like that its no wonder our country is
going to hell in a hand basket.

The only fair thing to do is rip off the music industry as bad as you
can,
for overcharging us for music all these years.

No, the only fair thing to do is to use your dollars wisely, and purchase
the best quality stuff for the lowest price available.

Stealing the music is theft, and -- no matter the sins of the music industry
in the past (which I could dispute, but that's another post) -- I can't
condone it.

That said, I agree that a buck a song is outrageously high for a download.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"DBlumel" wrote in message
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A buck per song is not bad? Are you nuts? That is as much or more than
you
would pay for a factory made cd, even more, when you consider the cost of
the blank data disk.

--
Jim in NC

Sorry Jim, we live in a free market economy. If you don't want to buy
because
the price is too high in your estimation, that's your choice. But you
cannot
justify stealing because you think they charge too much. I suppose you
would
only mark your products up 10% before selling, If you had anything someone
else
would want. So if you don't like a price in the store I guess you would
steal
that also. Or if you though they charged you too much last time you can
steal
it this time. With irrational thinking like that its no wonder our country
is
going to hell in a hand basket.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:WpfRb.153638$I06.1549162@attbi_s01:

The only fair thing to do is rip off the music industry as bad as
you
can,
for overcharging us for music all these years.

No, the only fair thing to do is to use your dollars wisely, and
purchase the best quality stuff for the lowest price available.

Stealing the music is theft, and -- no matter the sins of the music
industry in the past (which I could dispute, but that's another post)
-- I can't condone it.

That said, I agree that a buck a song is outrageously high for a
download.

Actually, I don't see a buck a song as bad at all....

If you add up the songs on a cd that you like at all.... then divide by
the price of the cd, your much higher than a buck a song. (for most cd's
anyway... most "best of" cd's excluded...)

However, if you want to buy the cd's then rip them to your HD, then burn
the stuff you want to listen to, i've found CDEX to be a very reliable
ripping software, even for scrached cd's... it's free and you can get it
at http://www.cdex.n3.net/ , scroll down to "latest stable release" The
best part of ripping your bought CD's is you do not have to managed the
"license" files so if you want to transfer to muliple devices you will
not have to mess with making sure all the"license permissions" are in
order.

You can then burn to cd with Nero, or even direct from windows media
player on some versions of windows. Also whatever software came with
your cd burner will usually work in "burn to audio cd" mode. I ripp to
mp3 192kb/s or better, then leave a backup on the computer, then burn up
to 20 songs at a time to the disk.

I've ripped every cd I own, and they reside on a hardrive on a computer
in our entertainment center and I set media player to play various
playlists depending on the occation. for example, durring a christmas
gathering, i can play over 12 hours of christmas music without repeating
a song.... beats the heck out of finding disks, changing disks, etc.

--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

I hate to break it to you , but downloading music is 'not' stealing ,
regardless of what spin they put on it. No one has ever been charged with
theft by the RIAA. What it is , is copyright infringement, and that is what
people 'are' being charged with.

Doug


"DBlumel" wrote

Sorry Jim, we live in a free market economy. If you don't want to buy
because
the price is too high in your estimation, that's your choice. But you
cannot
justify stealing because you think they charge too much. I suppose you
would
only mark your products up 10% before selling, If you had anything someone
else
would want. So if you don't like a price in the store I guess you would
steal
that also. Or if you though they charged you too much last time you can
steal
it this time. With irrational thinking like that its no wonder our country
is
going to hell in a hand basket.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:05:20 GMT, "Doug" wrote:

I hate to break it to you , but downloading music is 'not' stealing ,
regardless of what spin they put on it. No one has ever been charged with
theft by the RIAA. What it is , is copyright infringement, and that is what
people 'are' being charged with.

I'll agree it's not "theft" in the legal sense, but I do agree that it's
"stealing." You're using something of value without paying for it. It's
like I slipped out to the airport and flew someone else's airplane without
permission. Even if I fill the tanks after I land, most people will
consider that I stole the airplane. Criminal charges would likely be for
something else, though.

Ron Wanttaja

Not quite...........what you describe with the airplane analogy is indeed
theft, no question about it. What downloading music is like, is I go to the
airport and make a copy of your airplane and take it for a spin. At no time
was your airplane unavailable for your use.

Doug


"Ron Wanttaja" wrote

I'll agree it's not "theft" in the legal sense, but I do agree that it's
"stealing." You're using something of value without paying for it. It's
like I slipped out to the airport and flew someone else's airplane without
permission. Even if I fill the tanks after I land, most people will
consider that I stole the airplane. Criminal charges would likely be for
something else, though.

Ron Wanttaja

In article e.rogers.com,
"Doug" writes:


Not quite...........what you describe with the airplane analogy is indeed
theft, no question about it. What downloading music is like, is I go to the
airport and make a copy of your airplane and take it for a spin. At no time
was your airplane unavailable for your use.

Doug



Oh but you are paying for it. That radio station has paid advertisers who use
the station to get you to buy their products. You are paying the advertiser,
the advertiser pays the station, and the station pays a fee for every time they
play the song. The fee is dependent on the ratings of the station and varies
based on the number of rated listners.

It is NOT free.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Bob
I'm not sure , but I think you are responding to the wrong person. Anyway,
my point isn't whether it's ethically or morally right or wrong to download
music , but that to call it 'theft' or 'stealing' is not correct. It 'isn't'
theft, it's copyright infringement and trying to equate that to theft is
wrong.

Doug


"RobertR237" wrote in message
...
In article
e.rogers.com,
"Doug" writes:


Not quite...........what you describe with the airplane analogy is indeed
theft, no question about it. What downloading music is like, is I go to
the
airport and make a copy of your airplane and take it for a spin. At no
time
was your airplane unavailable for your use.

Doug



Oh but you are paying for it. That radio station has paid advertisers who
use
the station to get you to buy their products. You are paying the
advertiser,
the advertiser pays the station, and the station pays a fee for every time
they
play the song. The fee is dependent on the ratings of the station and
varies
based on the number of rated listners.

It is NOT free.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

I hate to break it to you , but downloading music is 'not' stealing ,
regardless of what spin they put on it. No one has ever been charged with
theft by the RIAA. What it is , is copyright infringement, and that is what
people 'are' being charged with.

Uh...., Copyright infringement is a very specific type of theft. Call a "spade
a spade" lets not mince words here.