A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Owning
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

My P-47 was damaged while fighting



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 28th 04, 05:35 PM
Dan Luke
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"C J Campbell" wrote:
I know of a bizjet that departed controlled flight near Geneva,
Switzerland about four years ago. The crew was only able to
regain control by shutting down all the electronic avionics.
They were getting extreme oscillations in
pitch and altitude excursions in excess of 6,000 feet.


Was that due to a software crash?

I seem to recall that the famous video of an Airbus 320 descending

into the
trees near Paris had something to do with a dispute between the pilot

and
the software about what the airplane was going to do.


Not due to a software crash.

An Osprey crashed on December 11, 2000 when the software failed
and the crew could not reset the computers. They pushed the reset
button eight times in ten seconds and the computers failed to respond.


That's one.

KAL 801 descended below glide slope and crashed into terrain
because of software failure on the ground.


But not a software failure in the airplane?

I can easily see a pilot losing control of a perfectly good airplane
because his panel suddenly displayed the blue screen of death.


I can too, I just don't think it's going to happen enough to be a
serious safety issue, if at all.

I think that overall the glass cockpits will reduce the number of
accidents.


I hope so. It hasn't worked out that way for Cirrus, but it's still
early days.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)


  #2  
Old March 28th 04, 05:53 PM
C J Campbell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

I think that overall the glass cockpits will reduce the number of
accidents.


I hope so. It hasn't worked out that way for Cirrus, but it's still
early days.


The Cirrus has had a lot of problems, but I don't think that any of them are
because of the glass cockpit. Most of them seem to come from pilots getting
behind the airplane or performing unauthorized maneuvers.

Your distinction between software failure and software crash is noted, but I
suspect that such fine points are lost on dead people. :-)

My own airplane has an MX-20 in it which uses Windows NT 4.0 for its
operating system. If that thing ever crashes I would like to think that I
would still maintain control of the airplane. Still, the temptation to stop
flying and troubleshoot the failed equipment seems to be overwhelming for a
lot of pilots.


  #3  
Old March 28th 04, 06:09 PM
Dan Luke
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"C J Campbell" wrote:

The Cirrus has had a lot of problems, but I don't think that any of
them are because of the glass cockpit.


Not at all. But I think Cirrus had hoped the glass cockpit would
prevent accidents due to loss of situational awareness, yet there have
been several.

Your distinction between software failure and software crash is noted,

but I
suspect that such fine points are lost on dead people. :-)


Ha! True, but that *was* what Denny was worrying about.

Still, the temptation to stop flying and troubleshoot the failed

equipment
seems to be overwhelming for a lot of pilots.


That can happen with a burned out light bulb, as an EAL crew proved in
the Everglades.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: 1986 "Fighting Jets" Hardcover Edition Book J.R. Sinclair Aviation Marketplace 3 January 22nd 04 05:01 PM
FS: 1986 "Fighting Jets" Hardcover Edition Book J.R. Sinclair Military Aviation 3 January 22nd 04 05:01 PM
FS: 1986 "Fighting Jets" Hardcover Edition Book J.R. Sinclair Aviation Marketplace 0 December 2nd 03 05:10 AM
FS: 1986 "Fighting Jets" Hardcover Edition Book Jim Sinclair Aviation Marketplace 0 September 8th 03 07:43 AM
FS: 1986 "Fighting Jets" Hardcover Edition Book Jim Sinclair Military Aviation 0 September 8th 03 07:43 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.