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Same-sex civil unions do not make sense.
.... to you. |
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![]() "John Harlow" wrote in message ... ... to you. True. Of course, if they made real sense, they'd make sense to me. |
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...
"Gene Seibel" wrote in message om... I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us will change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with. You don't change your mind when someone offers a better explanation/argument? Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree. Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of what I hear is new packaging for old ideas. -- Gene Seibel Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html Because I fly, I envy no one. |
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![]() "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et... Are "liberal activist judges" any worse than conservative activist judges? Since conservative philosophy precludes judicial activism there can be no "conservative activist judges". |
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![]() "Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items that WE ALL use every day. This assumes that government can provide them without VERY NEGATIVE consequences. There may be no supporting argument to say that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there were no government (read general public) intervention. And this uses the logical fallacy of "false alternative". The people that are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work (our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, Love Canal was hardly an example of "free markets"; quite the opposite. horrible child labor situations, And before child labor, these kids were running around the farm playing "tag"? Company Stores, and Slavery. Christ on a bike, where do you pull this BS from? Public School? Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. You haven't a freaking clue what the hell you're talking about, and you indicate a prime faling of government run schools, that being that they were set up for INDOCTRINATION, not eduction. snip -- Remove "2PLANES" to reply. |
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![]() "Gene Seibel" wrote in message om... "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... You don't change your mind when someone offers a better explanation/argument? Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well got my mind set on what I think is better. Ummm...I think they call that "dogmatic". Others may not agree. Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of what I hear is new packaging for old ideas. Well, as you're probably aware, an idea is neither good nor bad because it's old or new, but rather how well it comports with reality. Often ideas we've heard for years are not really what we've come to believe (our preconceived notions). For example, elsewhere in this thread Dan Truesdale is making claims about free markets and history that are completely bogus. I grew up "learning the same history", but found out well out of school that what I was taught was a crock of cow poop. One thing I notice about public schools is there is a complete lack of a "free market of ideas" and of data as well. |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et... Are "liberal activist judges" any worse than conservative activist judges? Since conservative philosophy precludes judicial activism there can be no "conservative activist judges". Even those that try to cram the Fifteen (bonk..crash...) the Ten Commandments down our throats, or that try to force teaching Creationism as equal with Evolution? |
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![]() "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et... Are "liberal activist judges" any worse than conservative activist judges? Since conservative philosophy precludes judicial activism there can be no "conservative activist judges". Even those that try to cram the Fifteen (bonk..crash...) the Ten Commandments down our throats, or that try to force teaching Creationism as equal with Evolution? Both notional hypothesis are equal under the scientific method, but we can know that evolution is false. How about we teach science in science class and consign evolution to the ash heap of discredited science? After all, at the beginning of each geological period a large number of species come into existance, followed by an extiction of some species slowing as the time line extends. The facts are the opposite of Darwin's process and that is not only a science problem, but also a cognitive dissonance problem for the athiest. |
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![]() "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... Even those that try to cram the Fifteen (bonk..crash...) the Ten Commandments down our throats, or that try to force teaching Creationism as equal with Evolution? Since conservative philosophy precludes judicial activism there can be no "conservative activist judges". |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... Even those that try to cram the Fifteen (bonk..crash...) the Ten Commandments down our throats, or that try to force teaching Creationism as equal with Evolution? Since conservative philosophy precludes judicial activism there can be no "conservative activist judges". Ah....yeah, okie dokie. |
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