Question about auto gas STC

2. I often fly into/out of Big Bear City, Ca. (elev. 6500ft.) I've been able
to get out lightly loaded (me and one in the right seat) at a density altitude
of 8,100 with one of our clubs 172s with the 320H2AD engines at 160 hp. What
difference would I see with the 15 fewer horses up front?

Don't know if you're partial to 172s for any reason, but you may want
to open up the search to other aircraft. Piper and Grumman may offer
you something with suitable performance and a slightly less expensive
purchase price.

Are 180hp (less expensive ^ ) Grumman's really suitable for frequent
8000+' DA takeoffs ?

"Martin Kosina" wrote in message
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Are 180hp (less expensive ^ ) Grumman's really suitable for frequent
8000+' DA takeoffs ?


They are suitable for one attempt.

On 2 Jun 2004 14:06:56 -0700, (Martin
Kosina) wrote:

2. I often fly into/out of Big Bear City, Ca. (elev. 6500ft.) I've been able
to get out lightly loaded (me and one in the right seat) at a density altitude
of 8,100 with one of our clubs 172s with the 320H2AD engines at 160 hp. What
difference would I see with the 15 fewer horses up front?

Don't know if you're partial to 172s for any reason, but you may want
to open up the search to other aircraft. Piper and Grumman may offer
you something with suitable performance and a slightly less expensive
purchase price.

Are 180hp (less expensive ^ ) Grumman's really suitable for frequent
8000+' DA takeoffs ?


Any non-turbocharged aircraft will have issues with 8000' + DAs. The
bigger the engine the heavier the bird. You will need to manage the
load and watch your conditions no matter what you choose to purchase.

z

"zatatime" wrote in message
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Any non-turbocharged aircraft will have issues with 8000' + DAs. The
bigger the engine the heavier the bird. You will need to manage the
load and watch your conditions no matter what you choose to purchase.

While that's true you couldn't make a much worse choice than a Grumman.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:48:58 -0600, "Newps"
wrote:


"zatatime" wrote in message
.. .


Any non-turbocharged aircraft will have issues with 8000' + DAs. The
bigger the engine the heavier the bird. You will need to manage the
load and watch your conditions no matter what you choose to purchase.

While that's true you couldn't make a much worse choice than a Grumman.



My point was to open the poster up to the idea that a different
airplane may better suit his needs. While I'm not a big fan of most
Grummans I know people who love them so I offered it as one of two
alternatives. Maybe I should have said something like...Insert
alternative manufacturer here...instead of being specific.

z

"zatatime" wrote in message
...
While that's true you couldn't make a much worse choice than a Grumman.



My point was to open the poster up to the idea that a different
airplane may better suit his needs. While I'm not a big fan of most
Grummans I know people who love them so I offered it as one of two
alternatives. Maybe I should have said something like...Insert
alternative manufacturer here...instead of being specific.

A Grumman has its place. But it ain't trying to get off the ground at an
8000' DA.