Handheld GPS auto mount OK?

I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

Henry

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
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I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield
this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

I've used velcro for my Garmin Pilot III for the last 5 years. I also
hardwired it into the aircraft. Couldn't possibly care less what the FAA
thinks.

You have an experimental or certified, newps?

Newps wrote:

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
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I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield

this

way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?


I've used velcro for my Garmin Pilot III for the last 5 years. I also
hardwired it into the aircraft. Couldn't possibly care less what the FAA
thinks.

Dave S wrote:
You have an experimental or certified, newps?

Newps wrote:

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...

I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the
auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick
stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield


this

way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s
and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?



I've used velcro for my Garmin Pilot III for the last 5 years. I also
hardwired it into the aircraft. Couldn't possibly care less what the FAA
thinks.



Amen !

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:39:19 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

Henry


I have what must be the world's simplest gps mount for the GPS2plus
GPS3 pilot series. works so well that the guy who borrowed my gps for
a ferry flight across australia made enough excuses that I gave it to
him and made another.
take a piece of 25thou 2024 aluminium sheet 5 1/4 inches by 3 1/2
inches. bend it into a squared "C" shape with 1 1/2 inch sides and 2
inch back. (you lose about an eighth in each bend)
then on the two edges make a quarter of an inch deep kink along the
edge.
ok? you end up with a 3 1/2 inch wide "C" shaped holder which slides
on from the back of the GPS and holds it with the screen vertical. The
antenae sits about an eighth clear of the mount.
I then epoxy on the base side one strip of hooks and one of loops.

epoxy on to the top of the dash a length of either hooks or loops in
the best position for use.

press the mount and gps in place and put a terry towelling hat over it
to keep it from overheating.

mine has been across australia 3 times without a problem. the spring
in the 2024 never seems to go slack and it holds the gps quite firmly.
the gps detatches and goes into my pocket when I'm away from the
aircraft.
Stealth Pilot
Australia

oh yeah I spray paint mine matte black.

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

"Newps" wrote in message
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"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...
I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the
auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick
stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield
this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s
and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

I've used velcro for my Garmin Pilot III for the last 5 years. I also
hardwired it into the aircraft. Couldn't possibly care less what the FAA
thinks.

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message ...
I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

Henry

The FAA actually specifically says that items attached by Velcro do
not need a 337. Technically you need a 337 to attach a GPS via a yoke
mount.

-Robert

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:44:30 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

IF you get ramped and IF the inspector thinks the mount is permanent
grab it with both hands and rip it off. The 2 sided tape isn't that
strong that it can't be removed. I think they probably see an awful
lot of these mounts and won't be concerned about it. Better to have it
firmly attached than flying around the cockpit in turbulance.



"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...
I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the
auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick
stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield
this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s
and
stuff?

Henry, are you telling us that for all these years you have been flying
around using VORs, NDBs, and those funny colors on the chart for
navigation!?!?

For what it's worth, Velcro itself is held on with sticky tape.

If you ever want to remove it, beware trying to get that sticky stuff
off of Royalite without damaging the surface underneath---a little WD40
may help.

Drew Dalgleish wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:44:30 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

IF you get ramped and IF the inspector thinks the mount is permanent
grab it with both hands and rip it off. The 2 sided tape isn't that
strong that it can't be removed. I think they probably see an awful
lot of these mounts and won't be concerned about it. Better to have it
firmly attached than flying around the cockpit in turbulance.


If you get ramp checked, what the heck is the inspector doing pawing
through your cockpit? Hand him the required paperwork and put the sun
screens into place. He has no business inspecting the inside of your
cockpit.

Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR