Garmin 296 and FliteStar

Hi there

I have just received my Garmin 296 , and also have the IOgear usb to serial
adapter
However , the cable provided by Garmin is a small connector on one end , and
a usb on the other..the usb to serial adapter is expecting a the serial end
to be plugged ito the GPS, which of course it cant...(no serial female
socket)

has anyone got the GPS 296 to talk to Jeppesen Flitestar , and if so how did
you connect it?

many thanks

Bill Padley
London
"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
Jeppesen Tech Support has this to say about Flitestar and USB ports:

Christopher,

Flitestar 9.0 does support USB connections, usually through I/O Gear 9-pin
serial to USB converters. Not all serial converters function well with
Flitestar. The I/O Gear unit seems to be one of the best ones currently on
the market.

-Scott @ Jepp Tech Spprt









"Christopher J Campbell" on 06/03/2004 10:21:22 AM

To: PcTechSupport

cc: (bcc: Scott Kiefer/Jeppesen/TMC)

Subject: USB support for GPS

Now that GPS units are using USB connections and many laptop computers
don't
even have a serial port, when will Flitestar begin supporting USB
connections to the GPS?

Christopher Campbell

Bill Padley wrote:
I have just received my Garmin 296 , and also have the IOgear usb to serial
adapter
However , the cable provided by Garmin is a small connector on one end , and
a usb on the other..the usb to serial adapter is expecting a the serial end
to be plugged ito the GPS, which of course it cant...(no serial female
socket)

I didn't quite follow that description, but if what you need is a serial
gender-changer, they are quite inexpensive and available. Check your local
computer supply store.

Dave..

I didnt explain well..g
There was a thread here previously to say that Flitestar did not work well
with USB gps connections, only serial ..A serial to USB converter
(theIOGEAR) was recommended ..all good so far...

However garmins output from the 296 is on a very small connector (like a
camera firewire connector) -on the other end is a usb plug ..how can the
serial to USB converter be used when there is no serial connector on the
garmin?
How does the serial to usb converter actually get to the garmin?
that was my question...I believe some people have it working with Flitestar
, but I have no idea how!

cheers

Bill Padley
london
"Dave Butler" wrote in message
...
Bill Padley wrote:
I have just received my Garmin 296 , and also have the IOgear usb to
serial
adapter
However , the cable provided by Garmin is a small connector on one end ,
and
a usb on the other..the usb to serial adapter is expecting a the serial
end
to be plugged ito the GPS, which of course it cant...(no serial female
socket)

I didn't quite follow that description, but if what you need is a serial
gender-changer, they are quite inexpensive and available. Check your local
computer supply store.

You have to buy the Garmin Serial cable for $38. However this will still
not work properly with Flitestar/Flitemap. It will upload a route from
Flitestar but it will not substitute the waypoints with the actual items.
In other words if you plan a route KFOK-CCC-KHTO you will find is has
uploaded those custom user waypoints that will apprear over the airports and
vor. This of course makes the upload worthless. The Garmin 295 would
upload perfectly, leading me to think they have changed something in the
protocol with the 296.

Because the interaction between these two tools is some important, I have
been sending emails and calling each manufacturer attempting to see if there
is a resolution. Each one says its the other ones fault. Because this
formerly worked fine with the 295 I assume the problem is with the 296.

It sure would be nice if there was more competition in this arena.


--
Rich Raine

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"Bill Padley" wrote in message
.. .
Dave..

I didnt explain well..g
There was a thread here previously to say that Flitestar did not work well
with USB gps connections, only serial ..A serial to USB converter
(theIOGEAR) was recommended ..all good so far...

However garmins output from the 296 is on a very small connector (like a
camera firewire connector) -on the other end is a usb plug ..how can the
serial to USB converter be used when there is no serial connector on the
garmin?
How does the serial to usb converter actually get to the garmin?
that was my question...I believe some people have it working with
Flitestar
, but I have no idea how!

cheers

Bill Padley
london
"Dave Butler" wrote in message
...
Bill Padley wrote:
I have just received my Garmin 296 , and also have the IOgear usb to
serial
adapter
However , the cable provided by Garmin is a small connector on one end
,
and
a usb on the other..the usb to serial adapter is expecting a the
serial
end
to be plugged ito the GPS, which of course it cant...(no serial female
socket)

I didn't quite follow that description, but if what you need is a serial
gender-changer, they are quite inexpensive and available. Check your
local
computer supply store.

Rich

Thanks for that info...what a mess!
keep us in touch if you get any more out of either manufacturer , though to
be fair , if it worked with the 295 and now is broken , it does kinda point
to Garmin !

all the best

Bill Padley
London
"Rich Raine" wrote in message
...
You have to buy the Garmin Serial cable for $38. However this will still
not work properly with Flitestar/Flitemap. It will upload a route from
Flitestar but it will not substitute the waypoints with the actual items.
In other words if you plan a route KFOK-CCC-KHTO you will find is has
uploaded those custom user waypoints that will apprear over the airports
and
vor. This of course makes the upload worthless. The Garmin 295 would
upload perfectly, leading me to think they have changed something in the
protocol with the 296.

Because the interaction between these two tools is some important, I have
been sending emails and calling each manufacturer attempting to see if
there
is a resolution. Each one says its the other ones fault. Because this
formerly worked fine with the 295 I assume the problem is with the 296.

It sure would be nice if there was more competition in this arena.


--
Rich Raine

remove ----- for email
www.eRaine.com


"Bill Padley" wrote in message
.. .
Dave..

I didnt explain well..g
There was a thread here previously to say that Flitestar did not work
well
with USB gps connections, only serial ..A serial to USB converter
(theIOGEAR) was recommended ..all good so far...

However garmins output from the 296 is on a very small connector (like a
camera firewire connector) -on the other end is a usb plug ..how can the
serial to USB converter be used when there is no serial connector on
the
garmin?
How does the serial to usb converter actually get to the garmin?
that was my question...I believe some people have it working with
Flitestar
, but I have no idea how!

cheers

Bill Padley
london
"Dave Butler" wrote in message
...
Bill Padley wrote:
I have just received my Garmin 296 , and also have the IOgear usb
to
serial
adapter
However , the cable provided by Garmin is a small connector on one
end
,
and
a usb on the other..the usb to serial adapter is expecting a the
serial
end
to be plugged ito the GPS, which of course it cant...(no serial
female
socket)

I didn't quite follow that description, but if what you need is a
serial
gender-changer, they are quite inexpensive and available. Check your
local
computer supply store.