Opinions on a M20J

Jon Kraus wrote in message . ..
Right now we are looking at a '79 M20J. I flew it Saturday adn it was
very nince. The owner has taken good care of the plane. My partner is
going to fly it Wednesday to get his impression. He will probably like
it. He is the one that sent me the ad. I'll keep you posted.

One interesting thing about Mooneys is that they all fly at different
speeds. Some are faster than others. As with all planes they all came
out of the factory with wings that are a little different (the effect
of hand building). Its not unusual for one Mooney to be 10 knots
different than the one that came out of the factory after it. One was
to tell if you have a fast straight wing is to stall the plane with an
experience CFI. Some Mooneys will roll inverted. These are the slower
ones. Some will stall straight ahead. These are the faster ones. Make
sure you try it with and w/o flaps. Under no situation should you ever
attempt to spin your Mooney.

-Robert, CFI Mooney owner.

One was
to tell if you have a fast straight wing is to stall the plane with an
experience CFI. Some Mooneys will roll inverted. These are the slower
ones. Some will stall straight ahead. These are the faster ones. Make
sure you try it with and w/o flaps. Under no situation should you ev

You left out to never look at the tail of a Mooney when you stall it. Know what
I mean?????

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Its not unusual for one Mooney to be 10 knots
different than the one that came out of the factory after it. One was
to tell if you have a fast straight wing is to stall the plane with an
experience CFI. Some Mooneys will roll inverted. These are the slower
ones. Some will stall straight ahead. These are the faster ones.

Any reason why he shouldn't just measure the cruise speed? It sounds more
omnfortable and more reliable?

Julian

"Julian Scarfe" wrote in message ...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Its not unusual for one Mooney to be 10 knots
different than the one that came out of the factory after it. One was
to tell if you have a fast straight wing is to stall the plane with an
experience CFI. Some Mooneys will roll inverted. These are the slower
ones. Some will stall straight ahead. These are the faster ones.

Any reason why he shouldn't just measure the cruise speed? It sounds more
omnfortable and more reliable?

You would have to fly a lot of Mooneys to notice the difference.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Any reason why he shouldn't just measure the cruise speed? It sounds
more
omnfortable and more reliable?

You would have to fly a lot of Mooneys to notice the difference.

Huh? You would have to fly a lot of Mooneys to notice a 10 knot difference?

Why is that?

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Any reason why he shouldn't just measure the cruise speed? It sounds
more
omnfortable and more reliable?

You would have to fly a lot of Mooneys to notice the difference.

Huh? You would have to fly a lot of Mooneys to notice a 10 knot difference?

Why is that?

Because 10 knots is the extream. Smaller differences would be harder
to tell. Its just easier to go up and stall it. You wouldn't want to
own a plane that you never stalled anyway.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Because 10 knots is the extream. Smaller differences would be harder
to tell. Its just easier to go up and stall it. You wouldn't want to
own a plane that you never stalled anyway.

You claimed that "the extream [sic]" is "not unusual". Seems like the "not
unusual" case of a 10 knot difference would be easy to notice.

As for smaller differences, if you can't tell the difference, then why would
you care? I know for my own flights, a 2-3 knot difference in speed is
irrelevant. Winds aloft always is a much more significant factor.

IMHO, it might not be a bad idea to stall a prospective purchase anyway,
just to see what the airplane's "manners" are. But I fail to see how
stalling the airplane is a superior method to checking cruise speed than
simply checking the cruise speed directly.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...

IMHO, it might not be a bad idea to stall a prospective purchase anyway,
just to see what the airplane's "manners" are. But I fail to see how
stalling the airplane is a superior method to checking cruise speed than
simply checking the cruise speed directly.

Its faster. I think your making too much of this. Mooney pilots always
try to compare how fast their Mooney is. If you want a fast one (and
most Mooney pilots do, otherwise they'd buy an Arrow) you want to
determine how fast your is. Running a 4 course range with a GPS takes
a good 15 minutes. Stalling take about 2 minutes.

-Robert