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Suggestion Matt... I don't know crapola about turboprops, but I have
spent my whole life banging around airports... If you go to an all
weather turboprop consider hiring an ATP rated pilot with a degree in
business or engineering, etc., who can be your copilot and can work in
the business when not flying... If you and your partners are going to
take on a multimillion dollar project with short timelines, you will
have far more on your mind than having fun flying - especially those
VOR-A approaches with circle to land in nasty weather, when you
absolutely, positively, have to be there...
Denny

"Denny" wrote in message
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Suggestion Matt... I don't know crapola about turboprops, but I have
spent my whole life banging around airports... If you go to an all
weather turboprop consider hiring an ATP rated pilot with a degree in
business or engineering, etc., who can be your copilot and can work in
the business when not flying...

Unfortunately, I need neither a business person, nor an engineer though that
might (probably will) change.

Why would the person need an ATP?

If you and your partners are going to
take on a multimillion dollar project with short timelines,

What do you consider "short timelines"? We're looking at nine months. Then
next year we think we can do it again.

you will
have far more on your mind than having fun flying - especially those
VOR-A approaches with circle to land in nasty weather, when you
absolutely, positively, have to be there...

Believe me, where we're going there are definitely NOT just VOR-A
approaches...even though these two main sites are not in major metropolitan
areas. :~) We still expect to do a few other projects, though most places
don't have those approaches either.

Matt, stepping up to an all weather turboprop aircraft is a whole new
world... Until you have a year or two of flying one on a gotta-be-there
schedule, you need someone in the cockpit who's major skill set is
pushing aluminum from point A to point B in any weather, not building
houses in any weather...
No, the hired pilot doesn't 'have' to be ATP rated but he/she needs to
be commercial, CFII, with real world experience - military flying, or
bush pilot time, air taxi time, UPS, etc... This will help you
tremendously in the cost of insurance which is going to be a big ticket
item if you are the named pilot and just moving into turbine aircraft -
having a propilot with turbine experience as the named pilot initially
will save you money up front and get you (almost) free instruction time
until you can satisfy the insurance minimum turbine time requirement...
Look in Trade-A-Plane for guys wanting a job... There are folks with
both technical education and turbine time looking for work...
Monster.com is a resource also.. While I suggested a full time
employee who is available on demand, there are folks who will work just
for the flying, also...

Denny

Denny

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
Matt, stepping up to an all weather turboprop aircraft is a whole new
world...

Probably not as bad as the Baron I used to own.

Until you have a year or two of flying one on a gotta-be-there
schedule, you need someone in the cockpit who's major skill set is
pushing aluminum from point A to point B in any weather, not building
houses in any weather...

I've been managing to push aluminum around for all these years, including
the eight that I've spent building my business, I imagine that it can't be
worse than getting there in my Bonanza.

No, the hired pilot doesn't 'have' to be ATP rated but he/she needs to
be commercial, CFII, with real world experience - military flying, or
bush pilot time, air taxi time, UPS, etc... This will help you
tremendously in the cost of insurance which is going to be a big ticket
item if you are the named pilot and just moving into turbine aircraft -
having a propilot with turbine experience as the named pilot initially
will save you money up front and get you (almost) free instruction time
until you can satisfy the insurance minimum turbine time requirement...
Look in Trade-A-Plane for guys wanting a job... There are folks with
both technical education and turbine time looking for work...
Monster.com is a resource also.. While I suggested a full time
employee who is available on demand, there are folks who will work just
for the flying, also...

Thanks for your comments.
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

On 22 Dec 2004 06:00:54 -0800, "Denny" wrote:

Matt, stepping up to an all weather turboprop aircraft is a whole new
world... Until you have a year or two of flying one on a gotta-be-there
schedule, you need someone in the cockpit who's major skill set is
pushing aluminum from point A to point B in any weather, not building
houses in any weather...
No, the hired pilot doesn't 'have' to be ATP rated but he/she needs to
be commercial, CFII, with real world experience - military flying, or
bush pilot time, air taxi time, UPS, etc... This will help you
tremendously in the cost of insurance which is going to be a big ticket
item if you are the named pilot and just moving into turbine aircraft -
having a propilot with turbine experience as the named pilot initially
will save you money up front and get you (almost) free instruction time
until you can satisfy the insurance minimum turbine time requirement...
Look in Trade-A-Plane for guys wanting a job... There are folks with
both technical education and turbine time looking for work...
Monster.com is a resource also.. While I suggested a full time
employee who is available on demand, there are folks who will work just
for the flying, also...

I've been doing research into buying a plane. I have about 300 hours
and have considered everything from a T182RG to a T210 to making the
jump straight into a 400-series Cessna. I talked to a guy who has a
421, and the insurance company wanted him to pay $30,000/yr for his
first year, PLUS (something like) 200 hours DUAL!

If for no other reason than the insurance cost, you could hire a guy
full time to be instructor/SIC, and the difference in insurance cost
would probably pay for the salary. You'd also have an experienced
person teaching you while you build time.
John Szpara
Affordable Satellite
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT