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Old November 18th 03, 05:51 PM
Frank
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I find it fascinating that you say:

On more of a philosophical note, the internet works because users and
providers _cooperate_ on protocols. Tolerance of non-conforming sites

hurts
us all.


Yet admit:

I use Mozilla (or Konquerer) on Linux. As a result I encounter many sites
that do not conform and are therefore unavailable to me.


I don't mean to sound rude, but if the sites are invisible to you because
of YOUR choice of browser, how is this anyone's problem but yours?

Blaming the website, when it is clearly a limitation of your browser, is
illogical.


No offense taken. And FTR I can see your site just fine, I just can't view
the videos because they are in proprietary formats. (There is no viewer for
Linux for .wmv's as of now.)

My browsers are compliant, it's the HTML they are pointed at that isn't. I
doubt that you are suggesting that you only want guests that use MS.

I use Linux for a number of reasons, one of them being that I am unwilling
to have systems running MS-Windows facing the internet. I think you'll
agree that this practice is becoming more and more popular.

Even if I used MS as an OS, I still would use Mozilla just because I like
the features it provides. If it came to pass that Mozilla was found to not
work correctly because of non-compliance I would look for a new browser
too. (Assuming it wasn't just a bug that would be fixed after being
reported).

There are very real benefits to consumers in having the web be platform
independent. It is incumbent on all users (providers and consumers) to make
sure that happens. Right now content providers don't take a very big hit
when they don't adhere to standards so people like me often sound like a
voice in the wilderness. But that is changing.....


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Old November 19th 03, 01:47 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article , Frank wrote:
No offense taken. And FTR I can see your site just fine, I just can't view
the videos because they are in proprietary formats. (There is no viewer for
Linux for .wmv's as of now.)


Xine will show .wmv videos just fine. I watched the video using Xine.
The wmv format is just a slightly repackaged MPEG4 file that has been
"embraced and extended" by the Beast of Redmond.

Even if I used MS as an OS, I still would use Mozilla just because I like
the features it provides. If it came to pass that Mozilla was found to not
work correctly because of non-compliance I would look for a new browser
too. (Assuming it wasn't just a bug that would be fixed after being
reported).


Mozilla has become much better than MSIE in recent years. So has
Konqueror. Windows users can run Mozilla too - if you run Windows, try
it and see how you like it compared to MSIE. I don't know what I'd do
without tabbed browsing now. I use Konqueror on Linux and *BSD, and
Mozilla on Windows.

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Old November 19th 03, 10:25 PM
Frank
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Dylan Smith wrote:

In article , Frank wrote:
No offense taken. And FTR I can see your site just fine, I just can't
view the videos because they are in proprietary formats. (There is no
viewer for Linux for .wmv's as of now.)


Xine will show .wmv videos just fine. I watched the video using Xine.
The wmv format is just a slightly repackaged MPEG4 file that has been
"embraced and extended" by the Beast of Redmond.


Thanks for the tip. I thought I had installed just about every multimedia
app out there. It's getting harder to keep track of just what's available
for Linux lately.


Even if I used MS as an OS, I still would use Mozilla just because I like
the features it provides. If it came to pass that Mozilla was found to
not work correctly because of non-compliance I would look for a new
browser too. (Assuming it wasn't just a bug that would be fixed after
being reported).


Mozilla has become much better than MSIE in recent years. So has
Konqueror. Windows users can run Mozilla too - if you run Windows, try
it and see how you like it compared to MSIE. I don't know what I'd do
without tabbed browsing now. I use Konqueror on Linux and *BSD, and
Mozilla on Windows.


Sing it brother, tabbed browsing has changed my life. The sky is bluer and I
can jump higher....

OK, maybe I exaggerate a little....But it really does make using the web
much nicer.
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Frank....H
 




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