Air Force One seen by BA pilot

The air-to-air freqs you refer to are not used in oceanic airspace...all
transoceanic flights are talking to the appropriate oceanic controller on
his/her discrete frequency. Use of this freq for plane-to-plane is not
kosher, but not unusual, either.

Bob gardner

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Well, there are just two air-to-air freqs that I know of.

Better yet, he could have called on the emergency freq, which all
pilots must monitor if able.

On 28 Nov 2003 10:37:39 -0800, (Milo) wrote:

The news mentioned that while AF1 was enroute to Baghdad Int., a
British Airways pilot saw AF1 and asked (on the horn) "is that AF1?".
Then AF1s' pilot responded "No, it's a Gulfstream". At first I
thought that was funny but then after thinking about it, I'm wordering
how true this is. First of all, did that BA pilot have binoculars?
How did he see AF1 with the TFR in place, I assume they are in effect
wherever AF1 goes in the world. ***I just thought of something as I
was typing this, maybe there was no TFR because Pres. Bush "wasn't
onboard" and it wouldn't have offically been AF1, as far as call sign
and ATC goes, at the time.*** Secondly, if none of that is the case,
why would the BA pilot would ask that question over the radio and what
are the chances the 2 aircraft would be on the same freq.? Just
wondering and speculating, not that it matters either way. If this
did happen, the pilot of AF1 has a great way of saying "Shut the hell
up man, this isn't what you think" wink wink. Very funny.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Bob Gardner" wrote

The air-to-air freqs you refer to are not used in oceanic
airspace...all transoceanic flights are talking to the
appropriate oceanic controller on his/her discrete frequency.
Use of this freq for plane-to-plane is not kosher, but not
unusual, either.

For the 25 years that I flew trans-oceanic, whether the FAA or
FCC approved it or not, 123.45 WAS Oceanic Common. I suspect
that it still is. Not too many Radio Cops out there. :-)

Bob Moore

The air-to-air freqs you refer to are not used in oceanic airspace...all
transoceanic flights are talking to the appropriate oceanic controller on
his/her discrete frequency. Use of this freq for plane-to-plane is not
kosher, but not unusual, either.

Ah, I stand corrected!

I wonder if Maurice Kirk knows this? He is planning to fly his Piper
Cub from Australia to the U.S. next year.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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