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On 2003-11-28 11:10:53 -0800, "R. Hubbell" said:
Big cojones would have meant announcing to the world that you were spending Thanksgiving with the troops in Iraq. Flying in for 2 hours, unannounced, is not an act of bravery. It's really just a political stunt. He may or may not care what kind if boost it gives him at home. The boost it gave to the troops in Iraq, though, was likely significant. That's probably even more important. And regardless of the size of anyone's cojones, announcing the world that he was going to be in Iraq would have been beyond brave. It would have been suicidal, especially had he ventured out in public. Regardless of what you think of the man's politics, you can't believe he's that stupid. |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:04:59 GMT
Larry Fransson wrote: On 2003-11-28 11:10:53 -0800, "R. Hubbell" said: Big cojones would have meant announcing to the world that you were spending Thanksgiving with the troops in Iraq. Flying in for 2 hours, unannounced, is not an act of bravery. It's really just a political stunt. He may or may not care what kind if boost it gives him at home. The boost it gave to the troops in Iraq, though, was likely significant. That's probably even more important. Now you can't believe that he doesn't care about the political boost? Improving moral was just a small part. But if I was there it wouldn't have done much for my moral. Think about it. He comes in secretly, stays for two-three hours and then he's gone. For me, if I was a soldier there, I would be reminded of how dangerous a place Bush had made it into. And regardless of the size of anyone's cojones, announcing the world that he was going to be in Iraq would have been beyond brave. It would have been suicidal, especially had he ventured out in public. Regardless of what you think of the man's politics, you can't believe he's that stupid. Being there at all put the troops in danger and annoncing it would have been stupid, I'll agree wiuth all that. R. Hubbell |
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Now you can't believe that he doesn't care about the political boost?
Improving moral was just a small part. Dude, GW could have stayed at his ranch in Texas, and no one would have said a thing. Flying into Iraq took big balls (however you spell it in Spanish!), no matter how you cut it. And I really don't think he gives a rat's ass about what ANYONE thinks about his motives for going there -- which is one reason I happen to like the guy. I may not agree with his politics, but it really is quite refreshing to have a President who is more than just a poll-taker. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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You're kidding there, right? :-)
mike regish "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:dYcyb.357965$HS4.2997746@attbi_s01... And I really don't think he gives a rat's ass about what ANYONE thinks about his motives for going there -- -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:52:57 GMT
"Jay Honeck" wrote: Now you can't believe that he doesn't care about the political boost? Improving moral was just a small part. Dude, GW could have stayed at his ranch in Texas, and no one would have said a thing. Flying into Iraq took big balls (however you spell it in Spanish!), no matter how you cut it. Now you know full well that if he had gone to Texas we'd all heard it from the pilots down tere. :-) The risk to Bush was small, the risk to those defending the airspace and ground was definitely increased. Election year stunt. I doubt he thought of it. Most likely it was Rice since she went too. Rice: "I know, go to Iraq instead of Texas" Bush: "Fine but you're going too." And I really don't think he gives a rat's ass about what ANYONE thinks about his motives for going there -- which is one reason I happen to like the guy. I may not agree with his politics, but it really is quite refreshing to have a President who is more than just a poll-taker. He only gives a "rat's ass" when it's time for an election. I don't like the guy, I'll spare you the reasons why. R. Hubbell -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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