"Homeland Security" in Iowa

I can't believe how stupid this is. What about an ignorant law? Why
don't you read that stupid list of allowed items? A Leatherman is
prohibited, but safety razors, nail files, crochet needles, and
corkscrews are fine?

Stupid, stupid, stupid......

And lets not forget, the Leatherman tool in question was just as
inaccessible as if it were encased in concrete.

It's a question of judgment. In the end, the TSA guys let my nephew go, so
common sense did ultimately prevail -- but not until after 15 minutes of
tension.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

It's not your fault for having it.

It's the administration's fault for not allowing it.

Ever hear the saying "ignorance of the law is no excuse"?


You miss the point (and the fact that you miss the point illustrates my point -
we are all sheep now)

What I am saying is that the law is bad, not that not knowing the law is ok.
IF they passed a law making people dance the watusi before boarding, would you
be in favor of jailing the bad dancers? (after all, they had notice, they
could have taken dancing lessons)

Jose

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It's a question of judgment. In the end, the TSA guys let my nephew go, so
common sense did ultimately prevail -- but not until after 15 minutes of
tension.


and theft of a $50 letherman.

Jose

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Blanche opined

And what's wrong with taking the object in question and mailing it
from the airport? TSA doesn't like it? Fine. Take your bags and the
object over to another counter or perhaps the gift shop, get a
mailing box and send it home. I was under the impression that
the objects were confiscated only if you agreed to allow it in order
to continue to the aircraft.

As far as I'm concerned, it's theft by the US Government if there
is no way to return the object to the owner at a later time.

The TSA should have bags ready for Leathermen, jack knives and nail
clippers. They could even make a few bucks by selling them. The bags could be
mailed or even gasp put in a secure part of the airplane and then returned
at your destination.

What a concept; nice security.


-ash
for assistance dial MYCROFTXXX

StellaStar opined

It's not your fault for having it.

It's the administration's fault for not allowing it.

Ever hear the saying "ignorance of the law is no excuse"?

http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?theme=177

Partial quote: "Prohibited items are weapons, explosives, incendiaries, and
include items that are seemingly harmless but may be used as weapons - the
so-called "dual use" items. You may not bring these items to security
checkpoints without authorization....

I watched my mother go through security with six cocktail glasses. Why they
let her onthe airplane with six potential weapons is beyond me.

If you bring a prohibited item to the checkpoint you may be criminally and/or
civilly prosecuted or at the least asked to rid yourself of the item. A
screener and/or Law Enforcement Officer will make this determination
depending on what the item is and the circumstances. This is because bringing
a prohibited item to a security checkpoint - even accidentally - is illegal.

(tough love, baby...and though I'm with those who say he administration's
running roughshod over civil rights, there's been enough publicity that
anybody going to fly commercial could find their way to the site and peruse
the prohibited items. It's actually amazing what you CAN carry, in checked
luggage)



-ash
for assistance dial MYCROFTXXX

and theft of a $50 letherman.

I'm not sure about that. Perhaps they will mail it to him?

I'll have to ask my nephew.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

besides: Jay, do you have any statistics on guests from foreign countries
in
your hotel? is it decreasing?

Hard to say, as it's a pretty tiny percentage of our business.

I've read that the number of foreign students at the University is down, so
I imagine that this trend will trickle down to us.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
and theft of a $50 letherman.

I'm not sure about that. Perhaps they will mail it to him?

Lol - it's now siezed property. Read the article I posted the link to:

"Airports have various ways of getting rid of items taken from passengers.
Washington Reagan National Airport sends them to a metal grinder before
they're melted down, while several California airports -- including San Jose
Mineta International Airport and Oakland International Airport -- offer them
on the eBay online auction site, Turmail said. "

and theft of a $50 letherman.

I'm not sure about that. Perhaps they will mail it to him?


No way. Even if he is willing to pay the shipping. Never happen. Too large a
bureaucracy. Let me know if I am wrong--it would make me happy.




www.Rosspilot.com

In article , Blanche
wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, it's theft by the US Government if there
is no way to return the object to the owner at a later time.

An interesting program on this topic was heard on NPR yesterday
afternoon.
It seems that if a passenger complains that something has been stolen
from his/her luggage, there are now multiple forms that must be filled
out. Then, you wait.
Under new legislation, the TSA and airlines share losses 50-50.
The only problem is, Congress limited the TSA's amount to $2 million.