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Old December 31st 03, 03:35 PM
FUji
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"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.


....and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane. Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.


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Old December 31st 03, 03:39 PM
Michelle P
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Fuji,
That thought has crossed my mind. It brings visions of the blue screen
of death on a Low ILS Final.
Until Apple make one that is more stable then we are stuck with it.

Michelle

FUji wrote:

"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.



...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane. Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.





--

Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

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Old December 31st 03, 06:15 PM
EDR
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In article k.net,
Michelle P wrote:

Until Apple make one that is more stable then we are stuck with it.


Already been done!
Burt Rutan had at least one of his aircraft running on an Apple
Powerbook about ten years ago. (Catbird?)
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Old December 31st 03, 04:36 PM
Ron Natalie
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"FUji" wrote in message ...
"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.


...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane. Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.


Gee, I guess you've never watched an MX20 boot up. NT 4.0.

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Old December 31st 03, 06:00 PM
Jerry Kurata
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:36:13 -0500, Ron Natalie wrote:


"FUji" wrote in message ...
"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.


...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane. Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.


Gee, I guess you've never watched an MX20 boot up. NT 4.0.


Or an Avidyne, also NT.


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Old January 1st 04, 06:13 AM
Bob Noel
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In article ain,
Jerry Kurata wrote:

...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane.
Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a
backup.


Gee, I guess you've never watched an MX20 boot up. NT 4.0.


Or an Avidyne, also NT.


neither are critical.

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Bob Noel
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Old December 31st 03, 06:17 PM
Morgans
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"FUji" wrote in message
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"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.


...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane.

Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.



I'm no Microsoft fan, but if you have never used XP, it is much more stable
than any of the others.
--
Jim in NC


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Old January 1st 04, 06:14 AM
Bob Noel
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In article , "Morgans"
wrote:

I'm no Microsoft fan, but if you have never used XP, it is much more
stable
than any of the others.


"stable" is relative. When it comes to safety-critical applications,
nothing microsoft or apple has is suitable.

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Bob Noel
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Old January 5th 04, 02:36 PM
Nathan Young
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Bob Noel wrote in message ...
In article , "Morgans"
wrote:

I'm no Microsoft fan, but if you have never used XP, it is much more
stable
than any of the others.


"stable" is relative. When it comes to safety-critical applications,
nothing microsoft or apple has is suitable.


Stable is relative. You really need an embedded RTOS or custom RTOS
to support life/safety-critical applications.

However, I am a big fan of Win XP. I have had a Win XP based machine
for nearly a year now, and I have only had to reboot a handful of
times. Win XP running a controlled set of applications and a minimal
number of drivers (printers, modems, firewalls, etc) would have a good
chance of staying stable for the 4-5 hrs of most GA flights.

On that note, have any of the UPSAT MX20 (Win NT) users had to reboot
on ground or in flight?

-Nathan
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Old January 3rd 04, 03:52 PM
Chris
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"FUji" wrote in message ...
"EDR" wrote in message
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Those little palm-things are fine for smooth air.
Just wait until you really need it and are bouncing up and down and
sideways trying to hit a little box on the screen with the stylus.


...and Microsoft (PPC OS) software has no place on an airplane. Especially
with something as critical as an AI, even if it is used only as a backup.


Uh, I have a Pocket PC and it has never crashed in flight. I have used
it for over 500 hours of flying and have had ZERO issues. I use NavGPS
Pro ($179) http://www.gonavgps.com and it works great. The only issue
I have ever had is with satellite reception and that has occured with
my Lowrance Airmap as well. As for trying to use a stylus in flight
most of the Pocket PC based apps allow you to use the buttons and
joystick for changes.

Current setup is an iPaq 3650 with Compact Flash card GPS and CF
storage card.
 




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