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Old January 4th 04, 02:51 AM
Mike O'Malley
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"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:36:17 -0800 "C J Campbell"

wrote:

All those people who worry about explosive decompression, innocent
bystanders getting shot, etc., are missing the point.



Do the sky marshals guard every emergency exit? What would happen if a
terrorist opened and emergency hatch at 36,000 ft? Can they be opened at all
when the plane is at altitude?


To further elaborate on other's replys- the emergency exit is larger than the
opening it fills, so it must be pulled inwards in order to open. With a
conservative 7psi cabin differential and a 36x36" opening, someone would have to
overcome nearly 10,000 lbs of force holding the door shut.

The new backscatter xray machines can see pretty much see everything. So
I'd have to suspend disbelief to think your scenario could play out.

Are you saying that you think a gun and/or bomb could be gotten on board
somehow? You scenario seems to rest on that premise.


The new x-ray machines are great. But they don't have a "gun/bomb/knife" alarm
on them. They still require as screener to watch and pick out the weapons. You
have thousands and thousands of bags being scanned a day, and a screener can go
his or her entire career without seeing ONE weapon. This is a very difficult
task to approach from a vigilance standpoint, and it is NOT inconcievable that a
Bad Guy could sneak something through.

Look at how many people are able to accidently get guns and knives through
security.


R. Hubbell




If a sky marshal (or pilot, for that matter) really has to get into a fight
with a terrorist, odds are you are going to lose the airplane. Either the
terrorist will set off a bomb or the aircraft will be so damaged during the
fight that it will crash.

This is still better odds of survival for the passengers and crew than
simply shooting down the hijacked aircraft, which the military will scramble
to do the moment that somebody tries to take over the airplane. The sky
marshal has only a very limited time to regain control. Otherwise the jet
will be shot down, no questions asked. So whatever the marshal can do, at
whatever cost, is better than the alternative.

Either alternative is better than letting a terrorist take control of an
aircraft and fly it into a crowd of people or some valuable object.

I would think that a pilot on a threatened aircraft would gradually reduce
the cabin pressure enough to cause the passengers to pass out. This could be
done in less time than it would probably take to break through the cockpit
door. The bad guys probably would not even notice and might even experience
a moment of euphoria. Once the passenger cabin is properly subdued the
pilots could make their way back and give oxygen to the sky marshals, disarm
the terrorists, and guarantee that control would be maintained after
everybody wakes up while the airplane is descending to land.

This last alternative would still be very dangerous. The terrorists might
still set off a bomb, either before they pass out or after they wake up. The
oxygen masks dropping in the cabin would might tip them off to what was
happening, although the masks sometimes deploy during a hijacking anyway.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.





 




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