Lightspeed Excellent Service

"EDR" wrote in message
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Better still, what does this tell you about the price of their products
that they can afford to perform so much free service?

What is that supposed to mean? Even if Lightspeed is losing money on the
free service, as a business in a competitive market they cannot afford NOT
to provide that kind of service.

The free service tells me nothing about the price of their products. What
does it tell you?

Pete

The free service tells me nothing about the price of their products. What
does it tell you?


They are still in business. Therefore they can afford the "free" service.
Therefore the cost of this "free" service is built into the price of the
headsets.

That makes them more expensive than they otherwise would be.

More expensive than if they simply made them right to begin with? Dunno.
That's their call.

My call is David Clark.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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They are still in business. Therefore they can afford the "free" service.
Therefore the cost of this "free" service is built into the price of the
headsets.

As I already pointed out, you have no idea whether they are losing money on
the free service or not (and thus, whether "the cost of this 'free' service
is built into the price of the headsets"). Just because they are still in
business today, that doesn't mean they will be in business tomorrow.

But the alternative (not providing the service) would likely ensure they
would not be in business "tomorrow".

My call is David Clark.

Suit yourself. I fly with neither Lightspeed, nor DC. There are several
good headset manufacturers to choose from. I find the "Dave Clamp" moniker
well-earned by the David Clark models, but lots of people do love their
headsets, no doubt about it.

Pete

Teacherjh wrote:


That makes them more expensive than they otherwise would be.

More expensive than if they simply made them right to begin with? Dunno.
That's their call.

My call is David Clark.

I have the Lightspeed Cross Country ANR. Before these I had the
original 20K and 25XL. I never had any problems with them other than
they are way too bulky. There's just no reason to have all that on your
head. My very first headset was the DC 13.4. After buying the
Lightspeeds I really can't see how DC foists that crap on people. Plus
my current Lightspeeds cost less than the DC's, weigh less and are much
more comfortable.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Teacherjh wrote:


That makes them more expensive than they otherwise would be.

More expensive than if they simply made them right to begin with?
Dunno.
That's their call.

My call is David Clark.

I have the Lightspeed Cross Country ANR. Before these I had the
original 20K and 25XL. I never had any problems with them other than
they are way too bulky. There's just no reason to have all that on your
head. My very first headset was the DC 13.4. After buying the
Lightspeeds I really can't see how DC foists that crap on people. Plus
my current Lightspeeds cost less than the DC's, weigh less and are much
more comfortable.

The first time I picked up a set of Lightspeeds they literally fell apart.
Simply not acceptable in my airplane. I have picked up DCs thousands of
times and have never had a problem. Come back in 20 years and we will
compare. OBTW if DCs are properly adjusted they are no more or less
comfortable than any other headset.

Dave Stadt wrote:

The first time I picked up a set of Lightspeeds they literally fell apart.
Simply not acceptable in my airplane. I have picked up DCs thousands of
times and have never had a problem. Come back in 20 years and we will
compare. OBTW if DCs are properly adjusted they are no more or less
comfortable than any other headset.

That obviously will vary from person to person but DC's are known as
head clamps for very good reason. They are designed that way. They
have to clamp your head to passively keep the noise out. For the vast
majority of people this fact isn't even debatable, it's a given. Some
people it just doesn't bother.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message igy.com...

OBTW if DCs are properly adjusted they are no more or less
comfortable than any other headset.

Like many sweeping generalizations, either the pilot shops
where I've tried on Dave Clarks and the owners who've lent
them to me, don't know how to adjust them (and I can't figure
it out either) or, this simply isn't true.

People have different head shapes. I can see where DC's
would not be a problem for someone with a fairly narrow
headshape.

They are very uncomfortable to me, and there is a significant
comfort difference between their passive models and other
passive models, and their ANR models vs other ANR headsets.

FWIW,
Sydney

Newps wrote in message news:laqKb.745705$HS4.5806601@attbi_s01...
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After buying the
Lightspeeds I really can't see how DC foists that crap on people. Plus
my current Lightspeeds cost less than the DC's, weigh less and are much
more comfortable.

I'll give you my perspective. Many of my flying friends own
Lightspeeds. I've used them and found all of them to be more
comfortable than my DC ANRs. Almost all of these folks have also had
problems of some sort with their Lightspeeds. In my book, the DCs
are not uncomfortable, just less comfortable than the Lightspeeds.
I'll take reliability over a small measure of comfort every time.

Note : as you pointed out, not everyone has problems with
Lightspeeds, but if my personal experience (and that of many posters
here) is any measure, there is a difference in reliability between the
Lightspeeds and the DCs.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

"Newps" wrote in message
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After buying the
Lightspeeds I really can't see how DC foists that crap on people. Plus
my current Lightspeeds cost less than the DC's, weigh less and are much
more comfortable.

You also forgot to add "and much less reliable"

SFM wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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After buying the

Lightspeeds I really can't see how DC foists that crap on people. Plus
my current Lightspeeds cost less than the DC's, weigh less and are much
more comfortable.


You also forgot to add "and much less reliable"

No, I didn't.