Takeoff with a problem?

Flyingrock

Just a little gas on the fire.

During my career in the Air Force, I rarely flew a bird without some
deferred write up in the Form One.

Rule was if the write up did not effect the safety or mission
accomplishment of flight then you signed off the acceptance and few
the mission.

On my personal GA bird I many times flew it with write ups until I
either had the money or time to get fixed if it did not effect the
safety of flight.

So, all said and done, what's the big deal unless your talking about
the tort system?

Big John
Pilot ROCAF

On 19 Jan 2004 08:36:16 -0800, (Rocky) wrote:

This is a loaded question and I suspect most will adamently say they
would not! However, it isn't too hard to come up with a number of
scenarios in which a pilot would take off with known "legal" problems
that are not affecting safety of flight, and some which are mechanical
problems that do affect safe flight in a very personal manner.
Now I am going to sit back and watch the weekend pilots take their
best shots, and hope to see some pros who have been out in the bush
and had to make the hard decision as to take off or sit and wait for
help.
In years past, I have had to do some flying that I probably would have
fired pilots over if they were flying off concrete and wearing ties
and white shirts.
Like I said, this is a trick question and meant to stir the pot to
create some very real day to day scenarios.
Ol Shy & Bashful

Big John wrote in message . ..
Flyingrock

Just a little gas on the fire.

During my career in the Air Force, I rarely flew a bird without some
deferred write up in the Form One.

Rule was if the write up did not effect the safety or mission
accomplishment of flight then you signed off the acceptance and few
the mission.

On my personal GA bird I many times flew it with write ups until I
either had the money or time to get fixed if it did not effect the
safety of flight.

So, all said and done, what's the big deal unless your talking about
the tort system?

Big John
Pilot ROCAF

Big John
Glad to see the healthy responses to the post. I've been accused of
being a stupid sh** or a troll for some of my posts but I always
thought the NG was to share info instead of being accusatory about
anything that smacked of "outside the boundaries".....
As a point of curiosity...what is ROCAF?
Would you consider a rotor RPM gage going inop during operations
sufficient to quit for the day? I suppose you could equate that with
the RPM gage going B.O. in nearly any aircraft?!
Of course there is always the spectre of the tort system, and the FAA
if there is some kind of investigation as a result of an accident or
incident. That is a subject that could take a whole new area of
discussion!
Best Regards and Cheers
FlyinRock

On 19 Jan 2004 08:36:16 -0800, (Rocky) wrote:

This is a loaded question and I suspect most will adamently say they
would not! However, it isn't too hard to come up with a number of
scenarios in which a pilot would take off with known "legal" problems
that are not affecting safety of flight, and some which are mechanical
problems that do affect safe flight in a very personal manner.
Now I am going to sit back and watch the weekend pilots take their
best shots, and hope to see some pros who have been out in the bush
and had to make the hard decision as to take off or sit and wait for
help.
In years past, I have had to do some flying that I probably would have
fired pilots over if they were flying off concrete and wearing ties
and white shirts.
Like I said, this is a trick question and meant to stir the pot to
create some very real day to day scenarios.
Ol Shy & Bashful

Rocky

ROCAF = Republic of China Air Force. Long story how I was awarded
their wings. US rules required I had to store them with the State
Department in Washington, DC until I retired.

The items you cite would ground a Aircraft/Chopper in almost any/all
circumstances.

You've got to remember that there are certain MEL rules that would
prevent you from legally flying with items inop.

Big John
Pilot ROCAF


On 20 Jan 2004 07:00:47 -0800, (Rocky) wrote:

Big John wrote in message . ..
Flyingrock

Just a little gas on the fire.

During my career in the Air Force, I rarely flew a bird without some
deferred write up in the Form One.

Rule was if the write up did not effect the safety or mission
accomplishment of flight then you signed off the acceptance and few
the mission.

On my personal GA bird I many times flew it with write ups until I
either had the money or time to get fixed if it did not effect the
safety of flight.

So, all said and done, what's the big deal unless your talking about
the tort system?

Big John
Pilot ROCAF

Big John
Glad to see the healthy responses to the post. I've been accused of
being a stupid sh** or a troll for some of my posts but I always
thought the NG was to share info instead of being accusatory about
anything that smacked of "outside the boundaries".....
As a point of curiosity...what is ROCAF?
Would you consider a rotor RPM gage going inop during operations
sufficient to quit for the day? I suppose you could equate that with
the RPM gage going B.O. in nearly any aircraft?!
Of course there is always the spectre of the tort system, and the FAA
if there is some kind of investigation as a result of an accident or
incident. That is a subject that could take a whole new area of
discussion!
Best Regards and Cheers
FlyinRock

On 19 Jan 2004 08:36:16 -0800, (Rocky) wrote:

This is a loaded question and I suspect most will adamently say they
would not! However, it isn't too hard to come up with a number of
scenarios in which a pilot would take off with known "legal" problems
that are not affecting safety of flight, and some which are mechanical
problems that do affect safe flight in a very personal manner.
Now I am going to sit back and watch the weekend pilots take their
best shots, and hope to see some pros who have been out in the bush
and had to make the hard decision as to take off or sit and wait for
help.
In years past, I have had to do some flying that I probably would have
fired pilots over if they were flying off concrete and wearing ties
and white shirts.
Like I said, this is a trick question and meant to stir the pot to
create some very real day to day scenarios.
Ol Shy & Bashful

"Big John" wrote, "ROCAF = Republic of China Air Force. Long story how I was
awarded their wings. ..."

Let's hear it!

Jon

Joh

If I told you I'd have to kill you (

Big John
Pilot ROCAF


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:15:15 GMT, "Jon Woellhaf"
wrote:

"Big John" wrote, "ROCAF = Republic of China Air Force. Long story how I was
awarded their wings. ..."

Let's hear it!

Jon