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Old January 22nd 04, 01:27 AM
Snowbird
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"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message ...
All of this is an illusion... No amount of badges, fences, lights, signs,
whatever, will stop someone who is willing to die for his 'cause'...
.... To have a free society you must accept that freedom
contains risks, and from time to time the tree of liberty will be watered
with the blood of it's patriots... I am willing to take the risks of freedom
in order to be free... I am not willing to watch my country become a Gulag,
so that the neurotic who are willing to sell my freedoms in order to assuage
their insecurity, may feel safe...


Wow! Well said, Dennis.

Brought a tear to my eye. If you ever bring Fat Albert
near the Gateway Arch, I'll buy you a brew on the
strength of it.

Now, being pragmatic -- I think it's reasonable to take
"reasonable" precautions, just as I lock the doors of
my house and my car and my hangar and my plane.

But part of what makes a precaution "reasonable", is
giving careful thought to what threat one is trying
to deter, how probable that threat is, how effective
a deterrant is likely to be, and what impact it will
have on legitimate users.

I just don't see that happening.

Cheers,
Sydney
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Old January 22nd 04, 01:31 PM
Dennis O'Connor
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If I have a reason for the fat boy to grunt his way to the Arch, I'll give
you a buzz on here...

"Snowbird" wrote in message
But part of what makes a precaution "reasonable", is
giving careful thought to what threat one is trying
to deter, how probable that threat is, how effective
a deterrant is likely to be, and what impact it will
have on legitimate users.


Exactly!

denny


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Old January 22nd 04, 10:17 PM
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...

Which one is that? Palo Verde Nuclear Plant, out here, has been restricted
airspace for years.


and

Damn...Palo Verde has AA missiles on it's site now...and it's only 20

miles
from Luke AFB...with a load of F-16's. Of course, those F-16's are

scattered
all over the landscape....


Sorry 'bout coming in late on this one, but I was catching up on the
newsgroup and this caught my eye.

Tom, as far as I can tell, there is no restricted airspace currently
around Palo Verde. I certainly don't recall it from years past
either. As for AA missiles, I flew past the plant last weekend and
didn't see a single smoke trail. Where did you get this info?

As far as I know, there's only that catchall NOTAM requesting that
you avoid loitering over the plant.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
 




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