Great shot of the Thunderbird F-16 Ejection

Dudley Henriques,



OT stuff?? and down loading music and Kerry stuff are? lol

Question for you older military pilots... Back in 1975 my high school,
guidance counselor said I could not fly (pilot) in the military because I
wore glasses, but I sure see now there were quit a few who did. What would
be a rough % of pilots who wore glasses?



Pat Thronson



"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
ink.net...

Group; sorry for the OT stuff. Trying to sort it out now.

John; we must be having trouble with private email for some reason. I've
sent several to you back channel, both using the hotmail and the new
address
you listed in a prior post here. I've received nothing from you in return.
The mails however didn't bounce back to me. Have no idea what it could be.
All other email is coming through just fine. You're the only one. Have you
received anything from me at all? Have you tried to email me at all?
D


On topic aviation piloting snipage

"Pat Thronson" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques,



OT stuff?? and down loading music and Kerry stuff are? lol

Question for you older military pilots... Back in 1975 my high school,
guidance counselor said I could not fly (pilot) in the military because I
wore glasses, but I sure see now there were quit a few who did. What would
be a rough % of pilots who wore glasses?



Pat Thronson

The actual percentage for this kind of stat might or might not be in the
database, I'm not sure. Perhaps some of the statistics guys out here will
have this information.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

Pat

Many pilots wear glases. More as they get older.

Basic rule was that you needed 20/20 to get in pilot training. After
you graduated and if your eyes then started going down like all do but
could be corrected to 20/20 with glasses you could continue to fly.
After all they had spent a fortune to train you.

Think they felt if you started with bad eys and they then went down
you wouldn't be able to get corrective lens to see???

When I started I could see 20/20 to 20/15 depending on the day and
time of day tested. I now wear glasses that only correct to 20/20 -
20/30 (.

Believe these are the genral rules and why.


Big John

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:21:28 GMT, "Pat Thronson"
wrote:

Dudley Henriques,



OT stuff?? and down loading music and Kerry stuff are? lol

Question for you older military pilots... Back in 1975 my high school,
guidance counselor said I could not fly (pilot) in the military because I
wore glasses, but I sure see now there were quit a few who did. What would
be a rough % of pilots who wore glasses?



Pat Thronson



"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
link.net...

Group; sorry for the OT stuff. Trying to sort it out now.

John; we must be having trouble with private email for some reason. I've
sent several to you back channel, both using the hotmail and the new
address
you listed in a prior post here. I've received nothing from you in return.
The mails however didn't bounce back to me. Have no idea what it could be.
All other email is coming through just fine. You're the only one. Have you
received anything from me at all? Have you tried to email me at all?
D


On topic aviation piloting snipage

Basic rule was that you needed 20/20 to get in pilot training.

And what a crap rule that is. It ended my chances for a military career,
and it's now ending my 13 year old son's chances -- despite the fact that he
is corrected to better than 20/20. (As was I.)

When I tried to enlist (late 70s) they told me they just used the vision
rule as a way to prune the list down, since there were 10 applicants for
every pilot position. Nowadays, with modern optics and/or Lasik surgery, it
is possible to correct nearly anyone to 20/20 or better.

Oh well. With reenlistment supposedly plummeting, maybe they'll have to
allow lasik before my kid comes of age, just to keep enough pilots?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Big John" wrote in message
...
Pat

Many pilots wear glases. More as they get older.


Think they felt if you started with bad eys and they then went down
you wouldn't be able to get corrective lens to see???

When I started I could see 20/20 to 20/15 depending on the day and
time of day tested. I now wear glasses that only correct to 20/20 -
20/30 (.

Believe these are the genral rules and why.


Big John

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:21:28 GMT, "Pat Thronson"
wrote:

Dudley Henriques,



OT stuff?? and down loading music and Kerry stuff are? lol

Question for you older military pilots... Back in 1975 my high school,
guidance counselor said I could not fly (pilot) in the military because I
wore glasses, but I sure see now there were quit a few who did. What
would
be a rough % of pilots who wore glasses?



Pat Thronson



"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
link.net...

Group; sorry for the OT stuff. Trying to sort it out now.

John; we must be having trouble with private email for some reason.
I've
sent several to you back channel, both using the hotmail and the new
address
you listed in a prior post here. I've received nothing from you in
return.
The mails however didn't bounce back to me. Have no idea what it could
be.
All other email is coming through just fine. You're the only one. Have
you
received anything from me at all? Have you tried to email me at all?
D


On topic aviation piloting snipage

Jay Honeck wrote:

Oh well. With reenlistment supposedly plummeting, maybe they'll have to
allow lasik before my kid comes of age, just to keep enough pilots?

Pilots are not enlisted men. As officers, the rules for dropping out of the
service are somewhat different.

George Patterson
Love, n.: A form of temporary insanity afflicting the young. It is curable
either by marriage or by removal of the afflicted from the circumstances
under which he incurred the condition. It is sometimes fatal, but more
often to the physician than to the patient.

Jay

Lots of rules. Know of pro athletes who couldn't pass military
physical standards

Big John

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:07:17 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Basic rule was that you needed 20/20 to get in pilot training.

And what a crap rule that is. It ended my chances for a military career,
and it's now ending my 13 year old son's chances -- despite the fact that he
is corrected to better than 20/20. (As was I.)

When I tried to enlist (late 70s) they told me they just used the vision
rule as a way to prune the list down, since there were 10 applicants for
every pilot position. Nowadays, with modern optics and/or Lasik surgery, it
is possible to correct nearly anyone to 20/20 or better.

Oh well. With reenlistment supposedly plummeting, maybe they'll have to
allow lasik before my kid comes of age, just to keep enough pilots?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsK7Tb.203524$na.334722@attbi_s04...
Basic rule was that you needed 20/20 to get in pilot training.

And what a crap rule that is. It ended my chances for a military career,
and it's now ending my 13 year old son's chances -- despite the fact that
he
is corrected to better than 20/20. (As was I.)

When I tried to enlist (late 70s) they told me they just used the vision
rule as a way to prune the list down, since there were 10 applicants for
every pilot position. Nowadays, with modern optics and/or Lasik surgery,
it
is possible to correct nearly anyone to 20/20 or better.

Oh well. With reenlistment supposedly plummeting, maybe they'll have to
allow lasik before my kid comes of age, just to keep enough pilots?

In the late 60's the Army lowered the vision requirements for helicopter
pilots to something like 20/80 uncorrected if correctable to 20/20. They
also (IIRC) lowered the education requirements to a high school graduate. I
believe this was due to the high attrition rates they were experiencing.

I got there six months too late, with 20/60, the HS diploma, and all the
test scores. :~(

In the late 60's the Army lowered the vision requirements for helicopter
pilots to something like 20/80 uncorrected if correctable to 20/20. They
also (IIRC) lowered the education requirements to a high school graduate.
I
believe this was due to the high attrition rates they were experiencing.

Yeah, they had that when I looked into it, too.

Didn't have 20/80 uncorrected, sadly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Story, 4 photos and 2 movies on avweb.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186633

"Big John" wrote in message
...

Basic rule was that you needed 20/20 to get in pilot training.

The RAF have pretty much the same rule I believe. The answer
was given by someone on television...you try pulling +9/-3g in
combat while wearing glasses or contact lenses wearing a hot
flight suit and gear, under other sweaty conditions and see where
the things end up! While easy to get around using prescription
goggles or something like that, normal glasses just bounce around
too much, and contact lenses are dangerous as they migrate/come
out. This is what they said anyway.

Paul