Simulated Engine Outs

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, EDR wrote:

In article , Cub Driver
wrote:

In small high wing planes (Ie 172, 152, 150) do you do/teach pulling
throttle all the back to idel? I've been told bring it to 1500 RPM, 1
notch of flaps. Not as hard on the engine

Crikey, the Cub will pretty much fly at 1500 rpm.
I bring it back to the stop. Then I goose it every couple or three
minutes--I've never noticed how frequently.

John, you have to remember that modern instructors do not teach
"clearing the engine" as we were taught with the Champs, Cubs, etc.

Really? I got my PPL in 2002, from an instructor who'd only being flying
for four years (yes, aviation's favourite whipping boy, the 21-year old
career-bound instructor...) and engine clearing every 1000ft or so was
absolutely standard procedure.

Some instructors might not teach it, but the club I'm with does at least.
(My instructor had been taught by our Chief Flight Instructor, who was
also my PPL flight test examiner...)

Brian.

Some instructors might not teach it, but the club I'm with does at least.
(My instructor had been taught by our Chief Flight Instructor, who was
also my PPL flight test examiner...)


That explains why he knows to clear the engine

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, BTIZ wrote:

Some instructors might not teach it, but the club I'm with does at least.
(My instructor had been taught by our Chief Flight Instructor, who was
also my PPL flight test examiner...)


That explains why he knows to clear the engine

Engine clearing is also mentioned explicitly as part of simulated engine
outs in Canadian training manuals.

As for my training arrangement, I really think I've lucked out. Having
heard so many horror stories on here and elsewhere about barely competent,
unsupervised instructors, shabbily run schools, and dodgy FBOs, it all
makes the Club seem even better. Our Chief Flight Instructor is usually a
DE as well, and trains most of the other instructors in the club; he
maintains the school side of the outfit to good standards. The business
side of the Club is equally well run - last weekend one of the new office
staff messed up a plane booking I phoned in, and the manager, without
hesitation, gave me a 30% discount on the next booking I made...

Brian.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 at 23:19:07 in message
c.ca, Brian Burger
wrote:
Really? I got my PPL in 2002, from an instructor who'd only being flying
for four years (yes, aviation's favourite whipping boy, the 21-year old
career-bound instructor...) and engine clearing every 1000ft or so was
absolutely standard procedure.

As it was also presented to me when I had flying lessons in 1954!

--
David CL Francis

"David CL Francis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 at 23:19:07 in message
c.ca, Brian Burger
wrote:
Really? I got my PPL in 2002, from an instructor who'd only being flying
for four years (yes, aviation's favourite whipping boy, the 21-year old
career-bound instructor...) and engine clearing every 1000ft or so was
absolutely standard procedure.

As it was also presented to me when I had flying lessons in 1954!

--
David CL Francis

Clearing the engine when an airport is not at hand seems like a prudent
procedure. I have had instructors let me take it all the way to 200 feet
within a farmer's field - clearing the engine periodically all the way down.
Over an airport, throttle to idle all the way to touchdown. This combination
of training seems like a good combination to me.

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Travis