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Old February 17th 04, 09:31 PM
Jonathan Goodish
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In article ,
"C J Campbell" wrote:
Although I voted for him, I have to say that Harry Browne is an idiot. He
believes that the Secret Service is unnecessary and that there would be no
terrorist attacks if the US did not interfere in other countries' affairs.
If government were smaller and less powerful, he believes, then the
President would not be a target for assassins. This is demonstrably stupid.
The government was much smaller and less powerful than what even Browne
advocates when Lincoln was assassinated. I somehow suspect that the United
States would have its foreign enemies no matter what it did.



As long as the United States remains a free and prosperous nation
willing to stand up to our enemies, we will be despised by someone
always. While the federal government has grown far beyond the limits
provided in the US Constitution, the duty of the federal government to
protect the nation from foreign enemies has always been and will always
be.

Ultimately, the Secret Service wouldn't be doing their job if they
didn't want to keep the President and anyone else they protect in a
sealed box, and those protected public officials or candidates wouldn't
be doing their job if they didn't temper this enthusiasm for security
with their obligation to the people.

As for John Kerry's desire to visit OSH, I'm not impressed, unless you
can tell me that he's visited fly-ins before he became a candidate. A
candidate's willingness to show up for a photo op and good PR doesn't in
any way indicate his attitude toward aviation or anything else.



JKG
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Old February 18th 04, 02:15 PM
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I am deeply suspicious of any man like Kerry who incites class warfare, envy
politics, punitive taxation of the most productive, character assassination,
etc., but if he were to come to OSH I would cheerfully show him around and
try to convert him into an airplane nut - not that I have a snowball's
chance in hell of getting near him in the first place...
denny

"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in . A
candidate's willingness to show up for a photo op and good PR doesn't in
any way indicate his attitude toward aviation or anything else.



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Old February 18th 04, 02:34 PM
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"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
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I am deeply suspicious of any man like Kerry who incites class warfare,

envy
politics, punitive taxation of the most productive, character

assassination,
etc., but if he were to come to OSH I would cheerfully show him around and
try to convert him into an airplane nut - not that I have a snowball's
chance in hell of getting near him in the first place...
denny


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Old February 18th 04, 03:11 PM
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etc., but if he were to come to OSH I would cheerfully show him around and
try to convert him into an airplane nut - not that I have a snowball's
chance in hell of getting near him in the first place...


That's the point, Denny -- he already IS an airplane nut.

No one has mentioned this, but I think we are EXTREMELY fortunate that we
have two pilots running for our highest office. Even though Bush and Kerry
are diametrically opposed politically, I like to think that anyone who has
flown has the attitude and ability we're looking for in a leader.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 18th 04, 08:06 PM
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In article QgLYb.346535$xy6.1729760@attbi_s02,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:
No one has mentioned this, but I think we are EXTREMELY fortunate that we
have two pilots running for our highest office. Even though Bush and Kerry
are diametrically opposed politically, I like to think that anyone who has
flown has the attitude and ability we're looking for in a leader.


I hate to say it, and no offense to the company in this thread, but
there are lots of people in fairly lofty professions who like to go out
and buy, boats, fast cars, etc. only because they can and they'd like
everyone to know it. I've encountered quite a few of those folks in my
short aviation career. Those pilots usually end up dead or dormant
after a few years, the airplane ego having run its course.

It's very difficult to tell what Kerry's or Bush's true feelings are
about GA. It does seem that some of Bush's political advisers feel that
they can score some good PR with the non-flying public by throwing up
restrictions on GA operations whenever they please, and I don't have any
reason to believe that Kerry's political advisers would be any
different. I really believe that it could be a lot, lot worse for us,
like if a trial lawyer were in the White House.


JKG
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Old February 18th 04, 11:29 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
No one has mentioned this, but I think we are EXTREMELY fortunate that we
have two pilots running for our highest office. Even though Bush and Kerry
are diametrically opposed politically, I like to think that anyone who has
flown has the attitude and ability we're looking for in a leader.


That's silly. There are a lot of bone-head pilots that don't have what
it takes to be leaders. In addition, I don't consider Governor Shrub a
pilot, anymore. Kerry, from all reports, has been an active pilot
(probably not recently, during the election). Shrub hasn't flown since
he left the guard. How much could he love flying if he hasn't even
bothered to do it in 30 years? Money certainly wasn't a problem. In
fact, I don't buy the point you made about his ex-instructor putting him
in the top 5% of his students. If he was that good, he would have kept
flying. To be that good, you have to love it. And if he loved it, he
wouldn't have stopped.

--- Jay


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Old February 18th 04, 11:36 PM
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I don't buy the point you made about his ex-instructor putting him
in the top 5% of his students. If he was that good, he would have kept
flying. To be that good, you have to love it. And if he loved it, he
wouldn't have stopped.


I agree, that's odd.

But I've known a fair number of pilots who quit flying. I don't know how,
or why.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 19th 04, 03:10 AM
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In article cGSYb.340944$I06.3556110@attbi_s01, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I don't buy the point you made about his ex-instructor putting him
in the top 5% of his students. If he was that good, he would have kept
flying. To be that good, you have to love it. And if he loved it, he
wouldn't have stopped.


I agree, that's odd.

But I've known a fair number of pilots who quit flying. I don't know how,
or why.


Someone I worked with was an A-10 driver and a test pilot. He
doesn't fly anymore because bugsmasher flying isn't why he loved
flying. A friend who was an F-111 WSO talks about how the flying
I do in my 140 ain't anything like the low level flying he did.

--
Bob Noel
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Old February 19th 04, 11:18 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:


But I've known a fair number of pilots who quit flying. I don't know how,
or why.


I have given up a number of activities over the years, for various
reasons. One is ham radio. I used to be pretty active on the HF bands
and gathered about 180 countries in about three years of activity.
After getting married I sold the HF radio but stayed on 2 meters for a
while. Still have a 2 meter radio now but only use it to monitor the
aviation band.

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Old February 20th 04, 04:53 AM
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I have given up a number of activities over the years, for various
reasons. One is ham radio.


Apples and oranges. As fascinating as ham radio can be, it ain't flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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