Stupid Attorney taling about GPS's

As far as Clinton goes, it's ancient history.

And you've forgiven Nixon, right?

Clinton, like Nixon, was among the worst blots ever to stain the
American presidency.

Far from "getting over it" or "moving on," I would say: "Those who do
not study history are condemned to repeat it."


all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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As far as Clinton goes, it's ancient history.

And you've forgiven Nixon, right?

That's a preposterous analogy, for a couple of reasons:

1) How many off-topic posts do you see on this newsgroup spontaneously
complaining about Nixon? I can't think of any.

2) Nixon slaughtered hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese because they
had the temerity to defend themselves against a US invasion, as they had
done previously against the French and the Japanese. He subverted the US
constitution by using federal agencies to commit crimes against his
political opponents. He resigned the presidency in the face of imminent
overwhelming votes for impeachment and conviction. He would have gone to
prison (as did 25 members of his administration, including four cabinet
members), had he not been preemptively pardoned by his own former vice
president.

Far from "getting over it" or "moving on," I would say: "Those who do
not study history are condemned to repeat it."

Good principle, preposterous instantiation. You think it's important for
people to continue to complain to an aviation newsgroup about Clinton's sex
scandal in order to protect the Republic from the possibility that another
president will get a blow job and lie about it?

--Gary

You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

Phil Payne

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

As far as Clinton goes, it's ancient history.

And you've forgiven Nixon, right?

That's a preposterous analogy, for a couple of reasons:

1) How many off-topic posts do you see on this newsgroup spontaneously
complaining about Nixon? I can't think of any.

2) Nixon slaughtered hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese because
they
had the temerity to defend themselves against a US invasion, as they had
done previously against the French and the Japanese. He subverted the US
constitution by using federal agencies to commit crimes against his
political opponents. He resigned the presidency in the face of imminent
overwhelming votes for impeachment and conviction. He would have gone to
prison (as did 25 members of his administration, including four cabinet
members), had he not been preemptively pardoned by his own former vice
president.

Far from "getting over it" or "moving on," I would say: "Those who do
not study history are condemned to repeat it."

Good principle, preposterous instantiation. You think it's important for
people to continue to complain to an aviation newsgroup about Clinton's
sex
scandal in order to protect the Republic from the possibility that another
president will get a blow job and lie about it?

--Gary

Phil Payne wrote:

You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

Really? That's why it took six years and the biggest demonstrations ever seen
in the U.S. to get the ******* to honor his campaign promises?

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Phil Payne wrote:

You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

Really? That's why it took six years and the biggest demonstrations ever
seen
in the U.S. to get the ******* to honor his campaign promises?
Six years?

Nixon took office in January, 1969 and the "armistice" was signed in
January, 1973. That after three years of gradual withdrawal. It was
Operation Linebacker in September, 1972 that brought NV back to the table
(for real) and the war ended within about four months.

It was 1975 (six years later) when the North violated the armistice and
overran the South. It was then we had Kerry's "peace" and the result (IIRC)
was 500,000 to 1,000,000 deaths in the "re-education" camps (more than
actually died during the fighting).

Tom -- one of the last ones out in March, 1973

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Phil Payne wrote:

You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not
Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

Really? That's why it took six years and the biggest demonstrations ever
seen
in the U.S. to get the ******* to honor his campaign promises?
Six years?

Nixon took office in January, 1969 and the "armistice" was signed in
January, 1973. That after three years of gradual withdrawal. It was
Operation Linebacker in September, 1972 that brought NV back to the table
(for real) and the war ended within about four months.

It was 1975 (six years later) when the North violated the armistice and
overran the South. It was then we had Kerry's "peace" and the result
(IIRC)
was 500,000 to 1,000,000 deaths in the "re-education" camps (more than
actually died during the fighting).

Not to mention the slaves delivered to the Soviet Union to settle Vietnam's
debt.

"Phil Payne" wrote in message
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You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

On the contrary, Nixon greatly expanded the US invasion, secretly (from the
US public) bombing Cambodia, for instance, unleashing thousands of B-52
sorties there, often in heavily populated areas.

But yes, Johnson was a monstrous war criminal as well--though I can't
imagine how you think that exonerates Nixon. They each inflicted far
greater atrocity than Saddam Hussein ever did.

--Gary


Phil Payne

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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As far as Clinton goes, it's ancient history.

And you've forgiven Nixon, right?

That's a preposterous analogy, for a couple of reasons:

1) How many off-topic posts do you see on this newsgroup spontaneously
complaining about Nixon? I can't think of any.

2) Nixon slaughtered hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese because
they
had the temerity to defend themselves against a US invasion, as they had
done previously against the French and the Japanese. He subverted the
US
constitution by using federal agencies to commit crimes against his
political opponents. He resigned the presidency in the face of imminent
overwhelming votes for impeachment and conviction. He would have gone
to
prison (as did 25 members of his administration, including four cabinet
members), had he not been preemptively pardoned by his own former vice
president.

Far from "getting over it" or "moving on," I would say: "Those who do
not study history are condemned to repeat it."

Good principle, preposterous instantiation. You think it's important
for
people to continue to complain to an aviation newsgroup about Clinton's
sex
scandal in order to protect the Republic from the possibility that
another
president will get a blow job and lie about it?

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
news:JA2_b.35289$4o.52406@attbi_s52...
"Phil Payne" wrote in message
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You should be naming JFK and LBJ for the killings in Vietnam, not Nixon.
The war was winding down when Nixon took office.

On the contrary, Nixon greatly expanded the US invasion, secretly (from
the
US public) bombing Cambodia, for instance, unleashing thousands of B-52
sorties there, often in heavily populated areas.

The Ho Chi mihn Trail was through the jungle and bombing it saved thousands
of American lives.

But yes, Johnson was a monstrous war criminal as well--though I can't
imagine how you think that exonerates Nixon. They each inflicted far
greater atrocity than Saddam Hussein ever did.

Nixon took over LBJ's war, after Lady Bird's company had made hundreds of
millions of dollars on Vietnam. If you want to know who killed JFK, just
follow the money.

Our system of lifetime professional politicians attracts those with huge
egos and a burning desire to forego gainful employment.. The public feed
trough attracts these types like moths to a burning flame... It will only
end if we 'ever' put strict term limits on every elected position above dog
catcher..
denny
"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

As far as Clinton goes, it's ancient history.

And you've forgiven Nixon, right?

Clinton, like Nixon, was among the worst blots ever to stain the
American presidency.

Far from "getting over it" or "moving on," I would say: "Those who do
not study history are condemned to repeat it."


all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
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Our system of lifetime professional politicians attracts those with huge
egos and a burning desire to forego gainful employment.. The public feed
trough attracts these types like moths to a burning flame... It will only
end if we 'ever' put strict term limits on every elected position above
dog
catcher..

And with term limits the populace will vote in the same characters with
different names.

Until the authority to spread money and favors (an authority they never
really had) is revoked, expect more of the same regardless of who is in
power or how many terms they (self)served.