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Old February 20th 04, 06:11 PM
Jay Honeck
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Thanks for the clarification and history, Big John. As always, we're
indebted to you and your expertise.

I had no idea that we kept the bombers airborne 24/7 -- I thought it was
just "Looking Glass" and recon stuff that was always in the air, with the
bombers on stand-by alert.
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Old February 21st 04, 12:09 AM
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Jay

Have seen the figure of 12 airborne 7/24 out of 4-500 bombers we had.
Don't hold me to those exact figures but will give you an idea. These
missions were called "Chrome Dome". One flight path was around
northern Pacific. Another one was over to the Med and return. Some
missions were 24 +/- hr flights. Med is where they lost the two birds
and 4 bombs with the mid air off Spain.

'Looking Glass' flew out of Offutt with a General aboard 7/24. Was a
backup C and C in case Washington got hit and National Authority
zapped. New bird was airborne and checked out before old bird landed.
If trouble getting the replacement airborne, the old bird just punched
a tanker until their replacement got airborne.

Glad the MAD has been put to bed.


Big John


On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:11:27 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Thanks for the clarification and history, Big John. As always, we're
indebted to you and your expertise.

I had no idea that we kept the bombers airborne 24/7 -- I thought it was
just "Looking Glass" and recon stuff that was always in the air, with the
bombers on stand-by alert.


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Old February 21st 04, 02:16 AM
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Glad the MAD has been put to bed.

Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM, making our Strategic Defense Initiative stuff
obsolete. It was in the news that they just successfully tested it this
week.

Which leaves us back with Mutual Assured Destruction as our only viable
"defense"... :-(
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Old February 21st 04, 02:41 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Which leaves us back with Mutual Assured Destruction as our only viable
"defense"... :-(


Not really. World is a very different place now than then A) Russia is
*not* the Soviet Union. B) Russia can't even come close to affording the
hint of an arms race. They are effectively bankrupt, but for the good
graces of a variety of western countries and lenders. C) The whole world
knows they are bankrupt and impotent, unlike the scenario through the 70s
and 80s, when they effectively bluffed the world. That was the simple
genius of RR's policy re USSR. He knew in his gut that they were finished,
and he called their bluff.

This latest probably relates as much to their domestic politics (election)
as it does to the world chessboard.


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Old February 21st 04, 10:11 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Which leaves us back with Mutual Assured Destruction as our only viable
"defense"... :-(


Not really. World is a very different place now than then A) Russia is
*not* the Soviet Union. B) Russia can't even come close to affording the
hint of an arms race. They are effectively bankrupt, but for the good
graces of a variety of western countries and lenders. C) The whole world
knows they are bankrupt and impotent, unlike the scenario through the 70s
and 80s, when they effectively bluffed the world.

Yet they still spend a fortune on missile weapons technology...


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Old February 21st 04, 11:50 AM
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:11:03 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:

Yet they still spend a fortune on missile weapons technology...


and for know they are the only ones to deliver to the ISS

#m

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Old February 21st 04, 04:26 AM
Earl Grieda
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UbzZb.356568$I06.3764118@attbi_s01...
Glad the MAD has been put to bed.


Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM, making our Strategic Defense Initiative stuff
obsolete. It was in the news that they just successfully tested it this
week.


The whole arguement for the SDI was that it was for "rogue" states and would
be useless against Russia.

Earl G


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Old February 21st 04, 10:12 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Earl Grieda" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UbzZb.356568$I06.3764118@attbi_s01...
Glad the MAD has been put to bed.


Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM, making our Strategic Defense Initiative stuff
obsolete. It was in the news that they just successfully tested it

this
week.


The whole arguement for the SDI was that it was for "rogue" states and

would
be useless against Russia.

Then why did their own people say that our going ahead with SDI told them
they were up a dead end?


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Old February 21st 04, 03:09 PM
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Earl Grieda wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UbzZb.356568$I06.3764118@attbi_s01...

Glad the MAD has been put to bed.


Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM, making our Strategic Defense Initiative stuff
obsolete. It was in the news that they just successfully tested it this
week.



The whole arguement for the SDI was that it was for "rogue" states and would
be useless against Russia.


No, it wasn't. It was specifically designed to get the USSR to go
bankrupt. And if by some chance it could be made to work, so much the
better.

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Old February 21st 04, 11:28 AM
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:16:21 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM


who are the "Russkies"?

besides ... just take enough money to one of the new countries developed
out of the former Soviet Union. There are enough people with enough
knowledge waiting too long for their salaries.

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