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Cub Driver wrote:

there was no english being spoken during the entire movie,

There's an argument going on in rec.music.opera about the Latin used
by Gibson's crew. Evidently it's modern (Catholic) church Latin,
rather than the classical Latin taught in schools (when it was taught
in schools). Both evidently are wrong for the outlier parts of the
Roman empire 2000 years ago. Something more like modern Italian or
Rumanian would have been more suitable.

Greek. The Romans would have been speaking Greek.

Give Gibson credit for stirring up a debate among Latin scholars

*snort*

I'm disinclined to spend the energy to see it, given that I didn't
muster the ertia to go see Master and Commander.

yours,
Michael


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I'm disinclined to spend the energy to see it, given that I didn't
muster the ertia to go see Master and Commander.

That was a good flick.

It's still playing around here, so maybe you can still catch it?
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:52:13 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


That was a good flick.

Unless you'd actually read the books by Patrick O'Brian (the Far Side
of the World is number 10 of 20) - arguably the finest fiction of the
Royal Navy in the Napoleonic period, when you'd realise the film was a
pale imitation of the books. Go find them - they are absolutely
excellent. The first volume is Master and Commander.
I'm not knocking the film, or your enjoyment, just saying if you
enjoyed that, you'd love the books even more.

And just to stay on topic, there are interesting notes on celestial
navigation and the balance of thrust vs drag, weight and balance etc
in the books - honest !!

(Hmmm - the Gundeck suite ? The Poop Suite ? You may find yourself
retheming the Inn.....:-) )

Damian

"Damian" wrote:

That was a good flick.

Unless you'd actually read the books by Patrick O'Brian
(the Far Side of the World is number 10 of 20) - arguably
the finest fiction of the Royal Navy in the Napoleonic
period, when you'd realise the film was a pale imitation
of the books. Go find them - they are absolutely
excellent.

Amen. Easily the most entertaining, absorbing fiction I've ever read.
Not just for the thrilling sea action but also for the wonderful
insights into early 19th century life. They're funny, too. O'Brian was a
great writer - sad he's gone.

Warning: these books are utterly addicting, and there are 20 (?) of
them.
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"Dan Luke" writes:

"Damian" wrote:

That was a good flick.

Unless you'd actually read the books by Patrick O'Brian
(the Far Side of the World is number 10 of 20) - arguably
the finest fiction of the Royal Navy in the Napoleonic
period, when you'd realise the film was a pale imitation
of the books. Go find them - they are absolutely
excellent.

Amen. Easily the most entertaining, absorbing fiction I've ever read.
Not just for the thrilling sea action but also for the wonderful
insights into early 19th century life. They're funny, too. O'Brian was a
great writer - sad he's gone.

Warning: these books are utterly addicting, and there are 20 (?) of
them.

Yep, 20 of the Aubrey-Maturin books. (There are some other O'Brian
books, but they're not part of the series and not very similar.)

When you run out of that there's always Dudley Pope, and
C.S. Forrester, and even Alexander Kent if you're really desperate (I
never made it all the way through the Kent books). And David
Donachie, and Walter Jon Williams, and lots of other people. It's
interesting to see the different research coming out :-).
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Amen. Easily the most entertaining, absorbing fiction I've ever read.

My daughter and her husband swear by them, but I never got past the
first couple of chapters.

I loved the movie, however. Saw it on the plane. But then I often
enjoy in-flight movies, just as I used to enjoy in-flight meals. (You
should have seen the meal that went with Master & Commander! There was
an Oreo cookie and a ... mercifully, I forget.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Damian writes:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:52:13 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote:


That was a good flick.

Unless you'd actually read the books by Patrick O'Brian (the Far Side
of the World is number 10 of 20) - arguably the finest fiction of the
Royal Navy in the Napoleonic period, when you'd realise the film was a
pale imitation of the books. Go find them - they are absolutely
excellent. The first volume is Master and Commander.
I'm not knocking the film, or your enjoyment, just saying if you
enjoyed that, you'd love the books even more.

As always with movies made from the book, the movie is just a pale
imitation. However, for people who like to *see* things it has quite
a lot to see -- some rather nice footage of the ship sailing through a
storm, firing the big guns, and the confusion of a boarding action
come to mind as particularly well done.

Great books, certainly.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Photos: dd-b.lighthunters.net Snapshots: www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

As always with movies made from the book, the movie is just a pale
imitation. However, for people who like to *see* things it has quite
a lot to see -- some rather nice footage of the ship sailing through a
storm, firing the big guns, and the confusion of a boarding action
come to mind as particularly well done.

Even behind the scenes was very well done. They checked around until they found
a club that owns two functioning cannon and took them down to a National Guard
firing range. IIRC, one was a 24 pounder. They set up recorders both near the
guns and downrange and fired a variety of shot types (chain, grape, round, and
cannister). All of the sound effects in the battle scenes are mixtures of these
tapes.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

Damian wrote:

(Hmmm - the Gundeck suite ? The Poop Suite ? You may find yourself
retheming the Inn.....:-) )

Lessee .... A suite with 5' beamed ceilings, painted blood red, with sand all
over the floor .....

Naw.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.