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Old March 19th 04, 01:09 AM
Andrew Gideon
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Morgans wrote:

Who cares? You are a very small minority. (only half a grin, here)


The question is: Does AOPA care (about the minority that doesn't spew
viruses at everyone {8^) ?

I am, after all, an AOPA member.

Seriously: I spend a nontrivial amount of effort selling people on
non-viral-farm solutions. Thanks to Apple's OSX, this is actually quite
feasible for the nontechnical today.

So what is AOPA saying about safe computing (and never mind monocultures) if
they ignore us?

- Andrew

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Old March 19th 04, 03:11 AM
Kristian G. Kvilekval
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:09:49 -0500, Andrew Gideon wrote:

Morgans wrote:

Who cares? You are a very small minority. (only half a grin, here)



Actually there might be more people that you would think.
I was about to write to AOPA and complain about the same thing.
It usually makes no difference, but if they hear it enough it
will put these issues on their radar.


The question is: Does AOPA care (about the minority that doesn't spew
viruses at everyone {8^) ?

I am, after all, an AOPA member.

Seriously: I spend a nontrivial amount of effort selling people on
non-viral-farm solutions. Thanks to Apple's OSX, this is actually quite
feasible for the nontechnical today.

So what is AOPA saying about safe computing (and never mind monocultures) if
they ignore us?


Nobody ever got fired for buying into microsoft, but maybe they
should have been.


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Old March 19th 04, 03:07 AM
'Vejita' S. Cousin
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In article ne.com,
The question is: Does AOPA care (about the minority that doesn't spew
viruses at everyone {8^) ?

I am, after all, an AOPA member.


Then if you haven't already you should contact AOPA and make your
concerns known. I think that the Cirrus software is windows only too.
Most programs are windows only. Sure pretty much every verison of windows
is unstable and the NT based ones have security holes in them, BUT 90%+ of
people use them.
AOPA might be able to get a mac verison (or Linux) but I would not
count on it. This might sound odd to you but for most people making a mac
verison just never occurs to them. Sure people own macs, but no one
except schools/university actually uses them right ?
So contact AOPA and ask, I'm sure if enough people contact them a mac
verison can be complied.
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Old March 19th 04, 03:50 PM
Gig Giacona
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I was a Mac user back at version something. About 5 years ago I gave up.
Yes they have a great operating system but Apple has done everything
possible to screw up the adoption of it by the general public.

According to Google Zeitgeist the operating systems used to access Google
during February 2004 by percentage were

Windows 98 23%
Windows XP 46%
Windows 2000 18%
Windows NT 3%
Windows 95 1 %
Mac 4%
Linux 1%
Other 1%

That's 91% for Windows.

There just isn't the base out there for every body to port every thing to
non-Windows OS. Hell, the virus writers don't even port their stuff to Mac.



"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Morgans wrote:

Who cares? You are a very small minority. (only half a grin, here)


The question is: Does AOPA care (about the minority that doesn't spew
viruses at everyone {8^) ?

I am, after all, an AOPA member.

Seriously: I spend a nontrivial amount of effort selling people on
non-viral-farm solutions. Thanks to Apple's OSX, this is actually quite
feasible for the nontechnical today.

So what is AOPA saying about safe computing (and never mind monocultures)

if
they ignore us?

- Andrew



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Old March 19th 04, 08:16 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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The browser identity string is settable on Linux browsers and many are set
to show themselves as being Windows machines running IE. This is because
there are a lot of sites that block entry unless IE on MS.

Nevertheless, Windows is still the predominant platform for desktops. But
don't count on that forever - corporate America is poised to make the jump,
led by IBM and others, to Linux. Good or bad, that is happening now.
Personally, I am for the freedom to use whatever platform you want (right
now most of my stuff is Windows), and not support a private standard such as
MS.


"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...
I was a Mac user back at version something. About 5 years ago I gave up.
Yes they have a great operating system but Apple has done everything
possible to screw up the adoption of it by the general public.

According to Google Zeitgeist the operating systems used to access Google
during February 2004 by percentage were

Windows 98 23%
Windows XP 46%
Windows 2000 18%
Windows NT 3%
Windows 95 1 %
Mac 4%
Linux 1%
Other 1%

That's 91% for Windows.

There just isn't the base out there for every body to port every thing to
non-Windows OS. Hell, the virus writers don't even port their stuff to

Mac.



"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Morgans wrote:

Who cares? You are a very small minority. (only half a grin, here)


The question is: Does AOPA care (about the minority that doesn't spew
viruses at everyone {8^) ?

I am, after all, an AOPA member.

Seriously: I spend a nontrivial amount of effort selling people on
non-viral-farm solutions. Thanks to Apple's OSX, this is actually quite
feasible for the nontechnical today.

So what is AOPA saying about safe computing (and never mind

monocultures)
if
they ignore us?

- Andrew





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Old March 19th 04, 08:31 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:

But
don't count on that forever - corporate America is poised to make the
jump,
led by IBM and others, to Linux. Good or bad, that is happening now.


We're a Solaris/Linux shop here, but I'm *very* aware of Apple's UNIX
product. A lot of desktop moves that might have been to Linux a year or
two ago are instead going to Apple. I cannot speak from my own experience,
but I think it a safe assumption that the Apple product is easier for
neophytes to use than Linux.

Of course, I personally still use a window manager (olvwm) from well over
ten years ago. The object model that most Linux managers use today leads,
in my opinion, to a cluttered screen that's tough to navigate. But Apple's
modal interface seems even worse to me.

The point being that I'm a poor judge of what UIs others would like. Still,
I think Apple on the desktop a good bet.

- Andrew

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Old March 20th 04, 03:47 AM
Bob Noel
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In article , "Gig Giacona"
wrote:

I was a Mac user back at version something. About 5 years ago I gave up.
Yes they have a great operating system but Apple has done everything
possible to screw up the adoption of it by the general public.

According to Google Zeitgeist the operating systems used to access Google
during February 2004 by percentage were

Windows 98 23%
Windows XP 46%
Windows 2000 18%
Windows NT 3%
Windows 95 1 %
Mac 4%
Linux 1%
Other 1%

That's 91% for Windows.

There just isn't the base out there for every body to port every thing to
non-Windows OS. Hell, the virus writers don't even port their stuff to
Mac.


the numbers cannot be trusted because browsers can be configured
to lie to the server. The lie is required in part because some
web weenies are complete idiots, "designing" the site so that it
only supports MSIE (we don't need that pesky web paradigm, do we?)

--
Bob Noel
 




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