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Old March 30th 04, 07:27 AM
BTIZ
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BTIZ wrote:
glider towing in the US for PP is authorized per the FARs.. he can log

hours
toward additional ratings.. but he can not receive monetary

compensation..

FAR91.309


Perhaps I missed something in 91.309, but logging hours is "compensation"

as
in "for hire or compensation".

Hilton


I should have elaborated,

FAR61.113(g) Private Pilot Privileges: A private pilot who meets the
requirements of 61.69 of this part may act as pilot in command of an
aircraft towing a glider.

FAR61.69 Glider towing: Experience and training requirements.

If you add in the information found in the FAA FAQ file for Part 61, you
will find that the "intent" is that the PP may log the hours while towing
gliders, and those hours may be used towards additional ratings. This is
directed towards glider "club" operations. It is not "intended" that a PP
may be compensated beyond hours in a log book and a PP cannot tow for a
Commercial Glider tow operation where the "owner" is receiving revenue for
the PP tow services.

Additional information may be found with the Soaring Society of America who
worked with the FAA to get the wording in FAR61.113(g) to allow soaring or
glider club operations who have limited funds and limited power rated pilots
to act as tow pilots.

BT


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Old March 31st 04, 01:46 AM
Robert M. Gary
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"BTIZ" wrote in message news:br8ac.64770$1I5.52101@fed1read01...
"Hilton" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:
glider towing in the US for PP is authorized per the FARs.. he can log

hours
toward additional ratings.. but he can not receive monetary

compensation..

FAR91.309


Perhaps I missed something in 91.309, but logging hours is "compensation"

as
in "for hire or compensation".

Hilton


I should have elaborated,

FAR61.113(g) Private Pilot Privileges: A private pilot who meets the
requirements of 61.69 of this part may act as pilot in command of an
aircraft towing a glider.

FAR61.69 Glider towing: Experience and training requirements.

If you add in the information found in the FAA FAQ file for Part 61, you
will find that the "intent" is that the PP may log the hours while towing
gliders, and those hours may be used towards additional ratings. This is
directed towards glider "club" operations. It is not "intended" that a PP
may be compensated beyond hours in a log book and a PP cannot tow for a
Commercial Glider tow operation where the "owner" is receiving revenue for
the PP tow services.

Additional information may be found with the Soaring Society of America who
worked with the FAA to get the wording in FAR61.113(g) to allow soaring or
glider club operations who have limited funds and limited power rated pilots
to act as tow pilots.

BT



The reason you can tow gliders with a private (assuming the glider
pilot is paying some nominal fee for the tow and the pilot isn't
getting any of it) is because one of the glider associations has a
waver. Just like the ultra light association has FAA wavers.

-Robert
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Old March 31st 04, 04:56 AM
BTIZ
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The reason you can tow gliders with a private (assuming the glider
pilot is paying some nominal fee for the tow and the pilot isn't
getting any of it) is because one of the glider associations has a
waver. Just like the ultra light association has FAA wavers.

-Robert


It's not a waiver if it is published in the FAR.

But the SSA did work with the FAA to get it published.

BT


 




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